2014 NFL Draft

jeanpierre · 03-10-2014, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i do see the logic, i am just stumped. how can you pay a QB so much money and not have protection as your #1 goal for that investment. I really am thinking the saints may want to just trade drew and get what they can and start over. you would be doing him a favor and me. i like him too much to watch him get creamed again next year. one time he will not get up.

he has lost his leading receiver sproils and his personal fav in moore. he is going to need more time in he pocket. i am getting a feeling we may have a suitor for PT at draft time. my greatest fear at this point. rookies on the left, right, middle and the backfield.

If Drew wanted protection, he could have stipulated he wanted Nicks signed and he took the balance (for what we paid Grubbs, there wasn't much difference), but Drew and Condon got their and Drew's got to live with it...

I can see keep veterans on offense, but on defense, I want young, faster, swarming, angry as a hornet defenders...

Maybe a saavy Linebacker and Safety to call the defense...

But Drew's gonna just have to make do...

hagan714 · 03-10-2014, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

But Drew's gonna just have to make do...

then we lose

jeanpierre · 03-10-2014, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

then we lose

See Falco Contract, Baltimore Ravens Fall to Mediocrity...

TheOak · 03-11-2014, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

See Falco Contract, Baltimore Ravens Fall to Mediocrity...

I think you may be giving more or less credit to Flacahoe than he deserves. The team went into the crapper the year after they lost their leader Ray Lewis.

Keep in mind.. Joe Flaccahoe's cap hit for the year they tanked 2013 was a paltry 6.8m down from 2012 by 1.2m. His contract made cap space in 2013.

They didnt have to get rid of players.

Seer1 · 03-11-2014, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I think you may be giving more or less credit to Flacahoe than he deserves. The team went into the crapper the year after they lost their leader Ray Lewis.

Keep in mind.. Joe Flaccahoe's cap hit for the year they tanked 2013 was a paltry 6.8m down from 2012 by 1.2m. His contract made cap space in 2013.

They didnt have to get rid of players.

Letting Boldin go was the last nail in that coffin.

TheOak · 03-11-2014, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Letting Boldin go was the last nail in that coffin.

Which didn't happen because of Flacco's contract. Some teams can't get out of their own war.

jeanpierre · 03-12-2014, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I think you may be giving more or less credit to Flacahoe than he deserves. The team went into the crapper the year after they lost their leader Ray Lewis.

Keep in mind.. Joe Flaccahoe's cap hit for the year they tanked 2013 was a paltry 6.8m down from 2012 by 1.2m. His contract made cap space in 2013.

They didnt have to get rid of players.

Well, surprise, I disagree with part of that - I think Lewis gets more credit than he deserves - they lost several free agents, especially in their secondary, that hurt them so that they could keep Falco - sound familiar?!?

Again, don't fault Falco for demanding, and getting, paid - but they had several holes to fill and a contract that engulfs that much of the cap space obviously limits what you can do...

TheOak · 03-12-2014, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, surprise, I disagree with part of that - I think Lewis gets more credit than he deserves - they lost several free agents, especially in their secondary, that hurt them so that they could keep Falco - sound familiar?!?

Again, don't fault Falco for demanding, and getting, paid - but they had several holes to fill and a contract that engulfs that much of the cap space obviously limits what you can do...

6.8m cap hit for a QB is a limiting factor? Thats what Bunkley's cap hit was.

lsutigerfan · 03-10-2014, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

then we lose

Not if the defense keeps improving.

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Safety	12	13.33%
Inside Linebacker	17	18.89%
Center	26	28.89%
Cornerback	29	32.22%
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03-10-2014, 12:44 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre But Drew's gonna just have to make do... then we lose

03-10-2014, 07:09 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 then we lose See Falco Contract, Baltimore Ravens Fall to Mediocrity...

03-11-2014, 02:10 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre See Falco Contract, Baltimore Ravens Fall to Mediocrity... I think you may be giving more or less credit to Flacahoe than he deserves. The team went into the crapper the year after they lost their leader Ray Lewis. Keep in mind.. Joe Flaccahoe's cap hit for the year they tanked 2013 was a paltry 6.8m down from 2012 by 1.2m. His contract made cap space in 2013. They didnt have to get rid of players.

03-11-2014, 02:38 PM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by TheOak I think you may be giving more or less credit to Flacahoe than he deserves. The team went into the crapper the year after they lost their leader Ray Lewis. Keep in mind.. Joe Flaccahoe's cap hit for the year they tanked 2013 was a paltry 6.8m down from 2012 by 1.2m. His contract made cap space in 2013. They didnt have to get rid of players. Letting Boldin go was the last nail in that coffin.

03-10-2014, 12:04 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 i do see the logic, i am just stumped. how can you pay a QB so much money and not have protection as your #1 goal for that investment. I really am thinking the saints may want to just trade drew and get what they can and start over. you would be doing him a favor and me. i like him too much to watch him get creamed again next year. one time he will not get up. he has lost his leading receiver sproils and his personal fav in moore. he is going to need more time in he pocket. i am getting a feeling we may have a suitor for PT at draft time. my greatest fear at this point. rookies on the left, right, middle and the backfield. If Drew wanted protection, he could have stipulated he wanted Nicks signed and he took the balance (for what we paid Grubbs, there wasn't much difference), but Drew and Condon got their and Drew's got to live with it... I can see keep veterans on offense, but on defense, I want young, faster, swarming, angry as a hornet defenders... Maybe a saavy Linebacker and Safety to call the defense... But Drew's gonna just have to make do...

03-11-2014, 02:40 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by Seer1 Letting Boldin go was the last nail in that coffin. Which didn't happen because of Flacco's contract. Some teams can't get out of their own war.

03-12-2014, 07:21 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by TheOak I think you may be giving more or less credit to Flacahoe than he deserves. The team went into the crapper the year after they lost their leader Ray Lewis. Keep in mind.. Joe Flaccahoe's cap hit for the year they tanked 2013 was a paltry 6.8m down from 2012 by 1.2m. His contract made cap space in 2013. They didnt have to get rid of players. Well, surprise, I disagree with part of that - I think Lewis gets more credit than he deserves - they lost several free agents, especially in their secondary, that hurt them so that they could keep Falco - sound familiar?!? Again, don't fault Falco for demanding, and getting, paid - but they had several holes to fill and a contract that engulfs that much of the cap space obviously limits what you can do...

03-12-2014, 07:29 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, surprise, I disagree with part of that - I think Lewis gets more credit than he deserves - they lost several free agents, especially in their secondary, that hurt them so that they could keep Falco - sound familiar?!? Again, don't fault Falco for demanding, and getting, paid - but they had several holes to fill and a contract that engulfs that much of the cap space obviously limits what you can do... 6.8m cap hit for a QB is a limiting factor? Thats what Bunkley's cap hit was.

03-10-2014, 10:36 PM	#9
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 then we lose Not if the defense keeps improving.

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