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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; "Drew Brees average time to sack 3.63s only 2 QBS have shorter times Brady and Manning" Yep. That does blow my mind. Where did you get that from? What this suggests is that with a great QB, you don't have ...
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"Drew Brees average time to sack 3.63s only 2 QBS have shorter times Brady and Manning"
Yep. That does blow my mind. Where did you get that from? What this suggests is that with a great QB, you don't have to have an amazing O-line. Is that what this stat suggests? |
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I'm all for replacing Brown and DLP but not the week of a game that can make or break the future of this post season
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA
Yes and no..... Most fans watch the ball and are relatively clueless as to who misses some blocks in the running game. Familiar with a "trap block"? For the sake of this discussion both sides are the same as in Right side o-line is over Right side d-line. Right Side DT crushes TB...... 98% of fans blame RT. The trap block means it was actually the LGs responsibility to block the RDT. Notice the black line crossing in front of the Center. With me so far? Yes you are. Now....... The complicated nuances of the offensive line. The Center comes off the ball and gets jammed at the line. When the LG pulls it's fast.... Very fast. Ball snapped, pivot right explode fast. He has to get to that RDT before that RB hits the hole. But chit... He pivoted ad exploded into the side of the Center because he didn't get out if the way, never made it to the RDT, and the RB was crushed at the line of scrimmage. Right tackle gets blamed or Right guard gets blamed The Left Guard missed the block It was all the Centers fault. If you are with me to this point you'll understand some of my past comments about the offensive line being more about how the group plays together than how good each of them are individually. It's synchronized swimming with 1600 pounds of beast. It's the 100 empty coke cans that hold up the man because they all pull their weight evenly. |
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Also heard some analyst comment that the majority of pressure Drew received were stunts that confused our O-line.
We obviously had our fair share of getting beat man-on-man, but there were a lot of plays where our O-linemen were simply clueless who to block. And a lot of these were simple D-line stunts. Kromer anyone? |
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Here is another trap block... Notice the guard pulls all the way to the left defensive end.
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Originally Posted by Danno
Kromer had us blocking man, down hill. His replacement brought in the zone blocking. Ingalls or Sean decided we switch to zone. It's like 2012 but on the opposite side of the ball. Scheme and players are not a match. |
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Here's to drafting the next Willie Roaf
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Originally Posted by TheOak
I think its a perfect example of change for the sake of change backfiring on us.
We weren't great at run blocking in our previous man scheme, but we didn't totally suck either. So we changed to zone blocking thinking we'd improve, but we didn't, we actually got worse. You'd think after the Spags debacle we'd learned our lesson about square pegs and round holes. |
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