Jimmy Graham Contract

jeanpierre · 02-18-2014, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You can only use 1 of the First Rounders this year.

But the Saints would take possession of both those picks this year and could use the 2015 in trade, if they were so inclined...

Still, in all, two No. 1s, who will have slotted salary assignments from a rookie pool, for a third round pick - it should be strongly considered...

jeanpierre · 02-18-2014, 02:03 AM

Let the Chess Game begin...

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hagan714 · 02-18-2014, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Let the Chess Game begin...

Report: Graham to file immediate grievance if tagged as tight end | ProFootballTalk

hmmm 10+ mill a year if he wins and from what i have read and heard he has a very good chance of winning, if he does then what? eat it? sign and trade?

6 years, $48 million sounds reasonable.

if not how about a sign and trade with the browns?

they get graham and we the #4 pick in the draft?

now you can wheel and deal and add players.

heck even get the 26th pick and their 2nd.

then pick up the phone and call FA agents and get a deal done.

Projected Price Tag:

Hakeem Nicks 5 years, $33 million
Jairus Byrd 5 years, $34 million
Donald Butler 5 years, $36 million
Alterraun Verner 6 years, $36 million
Brian Orakpo 5 years, $36.4 million
Jeff Cumberland 4 years, $15.6 million

i admit that is not the nicest thing to do to jimmy but the brownies do have talent

lee909 · 02-18-2014, 03:48 AM

Browns will not bite.
They have two first rounders as they have the Colts from the Richardson trade but they a QB with the 4th pick and will be looking at another weapon with the Colts pick.They also have Jordan Cameron at TE

lee909 · 02-18-2014, 03:56 AM

You could maybe get the Rams intersted as they hold picks 2nd/13/44 but they have Jared Cook who has big money left on his deal $12-8ml in dead money the next two years.
They will find a way to keep Jimmy but with his deal and Cameron Jordan expiring deal we are trying too float through that famous creak and are rapidly running out of paddles

hagan714 · 02-18-2014, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Browns will not bite.
They have two first rounders as they have the Colts from the Richardson trade but they a QB with the 4th pick and will be looking at another weapon with the Colts pick.They also have Jordan Cameron at TE

true the browns are talented and if they can put it all together they could be a team a top their division for the next few years/

i was thinking temperature wise lol

forgot about Jordan.

Originally Posted by lee909

You could maybe get the Rams intersted as they hold picks 2nd/13/44 but they have Jared Cook who has big money left on his deal $12-8ml in dead money the next two years.
They will find a way to keep Jimmy but with his deal and Cameron Jordan expiring deal we are trying too float through that famous creak and are rapidly running out of paddles

hmmm i would take cook off their hands as part of the deal

they can keep Jared Cook

too much money tied up at one position your right

rams? grrr send him to the AFC if anything.

i just hope Jimmy does not want to be a 10 million dollar a year man.

TheOak · 02-18-2014, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

But the Saints would take possession of both those picks this year and could use the 2015 in trade, if they were so inclined...

Still, in all, two No. 1s, who will have slotted salary assignments from a rookie pool, for a third round pick - it should be strongly considered...

Given the ecstatic willingness Saints fans are to let JG go for two FRDP's, is say he isn't worth two FRDP's and therefor no one is going to risk giving them up for him.

If there was more hesitation I would think they would be closer in value.

Think about it for a second. You wake up one morning and Loomis gave up $10m/year and two FRDPs for Gronkowski. How does your stomach feel?

lee909 · 02-18-2014, 06:20 AM

I guess for the buying team it all depends on the cap space available. For a team like the Rams (if they didnt have Cook on the roster) loosing two picks would maybe be worth the cap hit. Again one of the contending teams may think uts worth tsking away the Saints top weapon and loosing two very late first rounders.

jeanpierre · 02-18-2014, 10:56 AM

Browns will not bite as they have a very good Tight End in Jordan Cameron (yes, we have DE Cameron Jordan)...

halloween 65 · 02-18-2014, 11:40 AM

Atlanta needs a TE, Miami could use him, maybe the Rams, there are a few landing spots for Graham. I really don't see a team giving up two #1 for him because he isn't really an all around TE but maybe a 1st and a 3rd. I just can't see overpaying him to the point it cripples us and feel that he just isn't worth top TE money and to be honest WR money is out of the question. If nothing else let him walk and beef up the O-line and grab a reciever.

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02-18-2014, 12:54 AM	#161
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by TheOak You can only use 1 of the First Rounders this year. But the Saints would take possession of both those picks this year and could use the 2015 in trade, if they were so inclined... Still, in all, two No. 1s, who will have slotted salary assignments from a rookie pool, for a third round pick - it should be strongly considered...

02-18-2014, 02:03 AM	#162
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Let the Chess Game begin... Report: Graham to file immediate grievance if tagged as tight end \| ProFootballTalk hagan714 likes this.

02-18-2014, 02:49 AM	#163
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre Let the Chess Game begin... Report: Graham to file immediate grievance if tagged as tight end \| ProFootballTalk hmmm 10+ mill a year if he wins and from what i have read and heard he has a very good chance of winning, if he does then what? eat it? sign and trade? 6 years, $48 million sounds reasonable. if not how about a sign and trade with the browns? they get graham and we the #4 pick in the draft? now you can wheel and deal and add players. heck even get the 26th pick and their 2nd. then pick up the phone and call FA agents and get a deal done. Projected Price Tag: Hakeem Nicks 5 years, $33 million Jairus Byrd 5 years, $34 million Donald Butler 5 years, $36 million Alterraun Verner 6 years, $36 million Brian Orakpo 5 years, $36.4 million Jeff Cumberland 4 years, $15.6 million i admit that is not the nicest thing to do to jimmy but the brownies do have talent
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02-18-2014, 03:48 AM	#164
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Browns will not bite. They have two first rounders as they have the Colts from the Richardson trade but they a QB with the 4th pick and will be looking at another weapon with the Colts pick.They also have Jordan Cameron at TE hagan714 likes this.

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02-18-2014, 03:56 AM	#165
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract You could maybe get the Rams intersted as they hold picks 2nd/13/44 but they have Jared Cook who has big money left on his deal $12-8ml in dead money the next two years. They will find a way to keep Jimmy but with his deal and Cameron Jordan expiring deal we are trying too float through that famous creak and are rapidly running out of paddles hagan714 likes this.

02-18-2014, 04:03 AM	#166
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by lee909 Browns will not bite. They have two first rounders as they have the Colts from the Richardson trade but they a QB with the 4th pick and will be looking at another weapon with the Colts pick.They also have Jordan Cameron at TE true the browns are talented and if they can put it all together they could be a team a top their division for the next few years/ i was thinking temperature wise lol forgot about Jordan. Originally Posted by lee909 You could maybe get the Rams intersted as they hold picks 2nd/13/44 but they have Jared Cook who has big money left on his deal $12-8ml in dead money the next two years. They will find a way to keep Jimmy but with his deal and Cameron Jordan expiring deal we are trying too float through that famous creak and are rapidly running out of paddles hmmm i would take cook off their hands as part of the deal they can keep Jared Cook too much money tied up at one position your right rams? grrr send him to the AFC if anything. i just hope Jimmy does not want to be a 10 million dollar a year man.
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02-18-2014, 06:09 AM	#167
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre But the Saints would take possession of both those picks this year and could use the 2015 in trade, if they were so inclined... Still, in all, two No. 1s, who will have slotted salary assignments from a rookie pool, for a third round pick - it should be strongly considered... Given the ecstatic willingness Saints fans are to let JG go for two FRDP's, is say he isn't worth two FRDP's and therefor no one is going to risk giving them up for him. If there was more hesitation I would think they would be closer in value. Think about it for a second. You wake up one morning and Loomis gave up $10m/year and two FRDPs for Gronkowski. How does your stomach feel?

02-18-2014, 06:20 AM	#168
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract I guess for the buying team it all depends on the cap space available. For a team like the Rams (if they didnt have Cook on the roster) loosing two picks would maybe be worth the cap hit. Again one of the contending teams may think uts worth tsking away the Saints top weapon and loosing two very late first rounders.

02-18-2014, 10:56 AM	#169
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Browns will not bite as they have a very good Tight End in Jordan Cameron (yes, we have DE Cameron Jordan)...

02-18-2014, 11:40 AM	#170
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Atlanta needs a TE, Miami could use him, maybe the Rams, there are a few landing spots for Graham. I really don't see a team giving up two #1 for him because he isn't really an all around TE but maybe a 1st and a 3rd. I just can't see overpaying him to the point it cripples us and feel that he just isn't worth top TE money and to be honest WR money is out of the question. If nothing else let him walk and beef up the O-line and grab a reciever.

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