Jimmy Graham Contract

blackangold · 01-12-2014, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Franchise him. He'll welcome the raise. Plenty of time to get a long term deal done anyway.

Look at how loyal Payton was to Vilma and Smith. He could have easily left them out to dry..

His loyalty to those players only hurt the teams future... should have cut them and taken the dead money last year. Saints > players.

st thomas · 01-12-2014, 10:23 PM

Sign the the big man. Hell he.ll get better when the pay gets better. He will mature and get his head out his asre soon enough. He will get taught also after payraise to make a better effort and come back for a frickin ball like its the end of the world.

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frankeefrank · 01-12-2014, 10:28 PM

This one is hard…
He was clearly not healthy after the NE game.
And a foot injury to boot.
When healthy this guy is a game breaker.
When he's not, he's average.
Shannon Sharpe couldn't block someone on Twitter.
He's in the HOF with three titles.

I would sign Graham, but cheapest possible contract.
We need good players and he is that.

Halo · 01-12-2014, 10:47 PM

I don't think there is a question about it, this organization will keep him. May not be the best offseason for massive contracts so probably franchise tag. I think he's a fantastic receiver that needs a lot of football work to make him a better blocker - like getting additional coaching in the offseason and perhaps mentoring from a former TE great.

After the Pats game, how was his performance? Meh! Then again he was was hurt so there you go.

ansmith1975 · 01-12-2014, 11:18 PM

I say sign him to a contract then trade him for a 1&2 pick. I know it may sound crazy but we can do without him. Use the draft picks to beef up o line and secondary. We need to be less pass happy and become more of a physical running offense. Dam shame it took 3 years to find out Ingram can actually run.

saintsfan1976 · 01-13-2014, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by ansmith1975

I say sign him to a contract then trade him for a 1&2 pick. I know it may sound crazy but we can do without him. Use the draft picks to beef up o line and secondary. We need to be less pass happy and become more of a physical running offense. Dam shame it took 3 years to find out Ingram can actually run.

So you want to throw away Brees's top target for unknown commodities? Smart.

We used to be a heavier run team. That was before Sean Payton arrived. You know, before we started winning and going to the playoffs almost every year...

We always knew Ingram could run. He just needed to get healthy and prove it.

Cruize · 01-13-2014, 02:44 AM

No decision. You sign the guy.

jeanpierre · 01-13-2014, 05:13 AM

Not worried about his blocking when he's among league leaders in catches, yards, and touchdowns, though I'm embarrassed for him...

The inability to create space, advantage coming off the line is of great concern; is the injury going to linger like it did for Antonio Gates?!?

Franchise him, non-exclusive and take the picks if they're there unless the cap numbers work; don't see him having the same success away from Sean Payton's system, though he's a special player in it...

TheOak · 01-13-2014, 07:30 AM

Offer Jimmy Graham 25M for 5 years. If he doesn't accept, let him walk. He has play at about that level this year.

Non blocking
Alligator Arms
Consumes too much of Drews focus.

There are a 1/2 dozen Jimmy Graham threads, nothing new in any of them and nothing new coming any time soon.

jeanpierre · 01-13-2014, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Offer Jimmy Graham 25M for 5 years. If he doesn't accept, let him walk. He has play at about that level this year.

Non blocking
Alligator Arms
Consumes too much of Drews focus.

There are a 1/2 dozen Jimmy Graham threads, nothing new in any of them and nothing new coming any time soon.

That's 5mil per annum - why would he take less than market value?!?

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01-12-2014, 09:56 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Franchise him. He'll welcome the raise. Plenty of time to get a long term deal done anyway. Look at how loyal Payton was to Vilma and Smith. He could have easily left them out to dry.. His loyalty to those players only hurt the teams future... should have cut them and taken the dead money last year. Saints > players. jeanpierre likes this.

01-12-2014, 10:23 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Sign the the big man. Hell he.ll get better when the pay gets better. He will mature and get his head out his asre soon enough. He will get taught also after payraise to make a better effort and come back for a frickin ball like its the end of the world. Sent from my GT-P1010 using Tapatalk 2

01-12-2014, 10:28 PM	#3
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract This one is hard… He was clearly not healthy after the NE game. And a foot injury to boot. When healthy this guy is a game breaker. When he's not, he's average. Shannon Sharpe couldn't block someone on Twitter. He's in the HOF with three titles. I would sign Graham, but cheapest possible contract. We need good players and he is that.
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01-12-2014, 10:47 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,892 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract I don't think there is a question about it, this organization will keep him. May not be the best offseason for massive contracts so probably franchise tag. I think he's a fantastic receiver that needs a lot of football work to make him a better blocker - like getting additional coaching in the offseason and perhaps mentoring from a former TE great. After the Pats game, how was his performance? Meh! Then again he was was hurt so there you go.

01-12-2014, 11:18 PM	#5
ansmith1975 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract I say sign him to a contract then trade him for a 1&2 pick. I know it may sound crazy but we can do without him. Use the draft picks to beef up o line and secondary. We need to be less pass happy and become more of a physical running offense. Dam shame it took 3 years to find out Ingram can actually run. MarchingOn likes this.
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01-13-2014, 05:47 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,017 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by ansmith1975 I say sign him to a contract then trade him for a 1&2 pick. I know it may sound crazy but we can do without him. Use the draft picks to beef up o line and secondary. We need to be less pass happy and become more of a physical running offense. Dam shame it took 3 years to find out Ingram can actually run. So you want to throw away Brees's top target for unknown commodities? Smart. We used to be a heavier run team. That was before Sean Payton arrived. You know, before we started winning and going to the playoffs almost every year... We always knew Ingram could run. He just needed to get healthy and prove it.

01-13-2014, 02:44 AM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract No decision. You sign the guy. Beastmode likes this.
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01-13-2014, 05:13 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Not worried about his blocking when he's among league leaders in catches, yards, and touchdowns, though I'm embarrassed for him... The inability to create space, advantage coming off the line is of great concern; is the injury going to linger like it did for Antonio Gates?!? Franchise him, non-exclusive and take the picks if they're there unless the cap numbers work; don't see him having the same success away from Sean Payton's system, though he's a special player in it...

01-13-2014, 07:30 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Offer Jimmy Graham 25M for 5 years. If he doesn't accept, let him walk. He has play at about that level this year. Non blocking Alligator Arms Consumes too much of Drews focus. There are a 1/2 dozen Jimmy Graham threads, nothing new in any of them and nothing new coming any time soon. frankeefrank and ikecomp like this.

01-13-2014, 08:12 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by TheOak Offer Jimmy Graham 25M for 5 years. If he doesn't accept, let him walk. He has play at about that level this year. Non blocking Alligator Arms Consumes too much of Drews focus. There are a 1/2 dozen Jimmy Graham threads, nothing new in any of them and nothing new coming any time soon. That's 5mil per annum - why would he take less than market value?!?

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