Jimmy Graham Contract

lee909 · 06-27-2014, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

Per multiple sources, the case against Graham’s position that he should be treated as a receiver for franchise tag purposes included testimony from coach Sean Payton.

Sean Payton testified at Jimmy Graham hearing | ProFootballTalk

Damn i should read slower,i read

That Payton said that Graham should be classed as a receiver

Danno · 06-27-2014, 05:15 PM

Ya'll are confusing the crap outta me.

The article states that Payton said he's a TE, NOT a WR.

Right?

The Dude · 06-27-2014, 06:04 PM

I don't care. Offer him more than the highest paid TE no matter what the ruling is. If he doesn't take it fine, let him play under the tag for whatever his position he is ruled to be and use the long term money to get Jordan and Hicks signed next year. That much less restructuring Loomis has to do next year

Utah_Saint · 06-27-2014, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don't care. Offer him more than the highest paid TE no matter what the ruling is. If he doesn't take it fine, let him play under the tag for whatever his position he is ruled to be and use the long term money to get Jordan and Hicks signed next year. That much less restructuring Loomis has to do next year

I'll stick up for Graham's ability. And the mismatch it creates.
I'll stick up for Graham's right to try for as much money as he can get.

But I don't believe the Saints should have an open check book with him. It's not that I don't think he deserves a huge payday, but the Saints offense has been based on having too many different options for a defense to account for. So I don't think it makes sense to pay one receiver 12 million + / year.

jeanpierre · 06-27-2014, 09:03 PM

From Sean Payton testified at Jimmy Graham hearing | ProFootballTalk

(Excerpt) "The specifics aren’t known, but the gist of the testimony was that Graham is a tight end, not a receiver. The consequence, if Payton’s testimony is accepted, will be $5.3 million less in 2014 earnings for Graham."

AsylumGuido · 06-27-2014, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

From Sean Payton testified at Jimmy Graham hearing | ProFootballTalk

(Excerpt) "The specifics aren’t known, but the gist of the testimony was that Graham is a tight end, not a receiver. The consequence, if Payton’s testimony is accepted, will be $5.3 million less in 2014 earnings for Graham."

This is so frickin' stupid. Graham's earnings will be based solely upon his contract, not the dumbass ruling. Holy crap. These writers have no clue about what is going on and people posting their (the writer's) moronic prose simply perpetuate the idiocy.

My God, people. Get a grip.

Geez.

jeanpierre · 06-28-2014, 07:17 AM

Graham case included testimony from Bill Polian, Butch Davis | ProFootballTalk

"...Polian was an expert witness as to the position that Graham is a tight end for tag purposes; Davis testified on behalf of the position that Graham should be regarded as a receiver..."

What this Shaggy?!? Butch Davis testified on behalf of Jimmy Graham?!?

Butch Davis and Jimmy Graham are both Jimmy Sexton clients...

What's funny about this is calling Butch Davis as a football expert; had it been a recruiting discussion and the going rate for a four star prospect - I'd be all ears...

AliJee · 06-28-2014, 08:56 AM

Isn't that a conflict of interest when they share the same agent?

jeanpierre · 06-28-2014, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by AliJee

Isn't that a conflict of interest when they share the same agent?

Ali, lol, that is comical, isn't it?!?

Well Butch testified for his agent's client, so there not in conflict there...

AsylumGuido · 06-28-2014, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by AliJee

Isn't that a conflict of interest when they share the same agent?

No, not really. Sexton isn't involved in the litigation. Once again, this is NFLPA vs. NFL. This battle of titans will make strange bedfellows.

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06-27-2014, 03:28 PM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by brees84 Per multiple sources, the case against Graham’s position that he should be treated as a receiver for franchise tag purposes included testimony from coach Sean Payton. Sean Payton testified at Jimmy Graham hearing \| ProFootballTalk Damn i should read slower,i read That Payton said that Graham should be classed as a receiver

06-27-2014, 05:15 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Ya'll are confusing the crap outta me. The article states that Payton said he's a TE, NOT a WR. Right?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract I don't care. Offer him more than the highest paid TE no matter what the ruling is. If he doesn't take it fine, let him play under the tag for whatever his position he is ruled to be and use the long term money to get Jordan and Hicks signed next year. That much less restructuring Loomis has to do next year Utah_Saint likes this.
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by The Dude I don't care. Offer him more than the highest paid TE no matter what the ruling is. If he doesn't take it fine, let him play under the tag for whatever his position he is ruled to be and use the long term money to get Jordan and Hicks signed next year. That much less restructuring Loomis has to do next year I'll stick up for Graham's ability. And the mismatch it creates. I'll stick up for Graham's right to try for as much money as he can get. But I don't believe the Saints should have an open check book with him. It's not that I don't think he deserves a huge payday, but the Saints offense has been based on having too many different options for a defense to account for. So I don't think it makes sense to pay one receiver 12 million + / year. jeanpierre likes this.

06-27-2014, 09:03 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract From Sean Payton testified at Jimmy Graham hearing \| ProFootballTalk (Excerpt) "The specifics aren’t known, but the gist of the testimony was that Graham is a tight end, not a receiver. The consequence, if Payton’s testimony is accepted, will be $5.3 million less in 2014 earnings for Graham."

06-27-2014, 10:24 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre From Sean Payton testified at Jimmy Graham hearing \| ProFootballTalk (Excerpt) "The specifics aren’t known, but the gist of the testimony was that Graham is a tight end, not a receiver. The consequence, if Payton’s testimony is accepted, will be $5.3 million less in 2014 earnings for Graham." This is so frickin' stupid. Graham's earnings will be based solely upon his contract, not the dumbass ruling. Holy crap. These writers have no clue about what is going on and people posting their (the writer's) moronic prose simply perpetuate the idiocy. My God, people. Get a grip. Geez.

06-28-2014, 07:17 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Graham case included testimony from Bill Polian, Butch Davis \| ProFootballTalk "...Polian was an expert witness as to the position that Graham is a tight end for tag purposes; Davis testified on behalf of the position that Graham should be regarded as a receiver..." What this Shaggy?!? Butch Davis testified on behalf of Jimmy Graham?!? Butch Davis and Jimmy Graham are both Jimmy Sexton clients... What's funny about this is calling Butch Davis as a football expert; had it been a recruiting discussion and the going rate for a four star prospect - I'd be all ears... Seer1 likes this.

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AliJee 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 267	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Isn't that a conflict of interest when they share the same agent?

06-28-2014, 09:53 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by AliJee Isn't that a conflict of interest when they share the same agent? Ali, lol, that is comical, isn't it?!? Well Butch testified for his agent's client, so there not in conflict there... AliJee likes this.
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06-28-2014, 03:39 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by AliJee Isn't that a conflict of interest when they share the same agent? No, not really. Sexton isn't involved in the litigation. Once again, this is NFLPA vs. NFL. This battle of titans will make strange bedfellows.

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