It's become very apparent

Utah_Saint · 01-20-2014, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

No matter which way you spin it as of right now we don't have the personnel to compete with the Patrick Willis's of the world nor the Richard Sherman's nor the Aldon Smith's.

I think we do.

San Francisco 49ers vs. New Orleans Saints - Box Score - November 17, 2013 - ESPN

I think the team could use some tweaking but no reason to blow anything up right now.

OldMaid · 01-20-2014, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I have way more confidence in Peyton and his receivers than Seattle and their defense. I fully expect it to be a blowout.

I sure hope so.

QBREES9 · 01-20-2014, 10:15 AM

We are the New Orleans SAINTS !!!

ScottF · 01-20-2014, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

If we're going to win another bowl ... We're either going through the Seahawks or the 49ers. If we hope to compete with them we need to overhaul our team. !

another overhaul thread...
we were ONE play away from having home field- Pats, Carolina, even the Jets. We also showed up 2 hours late for the Seattle PO game

how many guys need to go? we have 5 guys on defense on IR that can start
We have 9 solid offensive players, with two not far behind.

TAG Jimmy, sign Strief, and draft BPA.

Seattle gets the first place schedule and has a tough division. We'll be fine.

hennr · 01-20-2014, 11:18 AM

If REFs will not call a fair game then all saints can do is break the bank next two years an penny pinch in the out years,DREW is 35 saints have a two to three years when drew is at top of his game.Hardst thing to find is a elite QB Saints haveone may not again for another 10 to 15 years.Refs will not ever help us again all that can be done is break the bankYes after drew retires Saints will have to have a roster of half rookie UFDA players to get under cap.49ers did so along with ravens spend to win now an accept a few lean years.

RaginCajun83 · 01-20-2014, 01:27 PM

The 49ers and Seahawks are playing with bargain quarterbacks right now, there is no way they will be able to keep all of their talent and depth and afford Kap and Wilson. No need to dismantle the Saints, just a couple upgrades and this team stays competitive

Euphoria · 01-20-2014, 04:45 PM

I don't buy into trading up theory. I think we have proven having high draft pics doesn't equal success. Being smart, evaluating...

alleycat_126 · 01-20-2014, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Did I refer to any saying we needed thugs ? Negative ... I said there is a clear drop off of talent when playing physical teams ... We are soft , and what they say about us is apparent and true ... From the gate we are in damage control mode against physical teams and it shows , we play different , we play intimidated

I say physical and automatically think of thugs ? Give me a team of physical freaks you can keep the finesse offense because against the cream of the crop it don't work !!!

We had like a 5 game lead in our division and lost to a team we had no business losing to because they play with a chip on their shoulders ( Carolina ) ... And your going to tell me were just fine ???

Blasphemy !!!!

there's a couple of teams with physical freaks sitting on the couch right next to us, and I be damned if it ain't the team you said is better than us. We actually are just fine... A stop against Carolina, and a call against New England and you would be singing a different tune....

Saintaintso · 01-20-2014, 07:31 PM

We lost 3 division clinchers in a row ! Any of which has us winning and most likely playing in this Super Bowl as our home filed advantage is that good ... To say we're fine you're lying to yourself ...

And despite what the stats said against San Fran they don't show just how many plays DLP or Strief we're hanging on by just a thread ...

Oh and has everyone completely forgotten that the falcons are legit contenders on a very down year and will be back ?

And Carolina is getting better ( obviously enough to hawk us on a 5 game division lead )

Anyone forgotten about Lovie smith going to that already elite defense in Tampa ?

What about Aaron Rodgers returning with the pack when they get back in track ?

We're lying to ourselves if we think we're okay how we are

TheOak · 01-20-2014, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

We lost 3 division clinchers in a row ! Any of which has us winning and most likely playing in this Super Bowl as our home filed advantage is that good ... To say we're fine you're lying to yourself ...

And despite what the stats said against San Fran they don't show just how many plays DLP or Strief we're hanging on by just a thread ...

Oh and has everyone completely forgotten that the falcons are legit contenders on a very down year and will be back ?

And Carolina is getting better ( obviously enough to hawk us on a 5 game division lead )

Anyone forgotten about Lovie smith going to that already elite defense in Tampa ?

What about Aaron Rodgers returning with the pack when they get back in track ?

We're lying to ourselves if we think we're okay how we are

May I borrow your logic?

We are Super Bowl Champions on a down year and will be back on track. The teams above can't hold our jock.

Yet another "everyone else is elite and we are crap" posts.

You'll have to excuse me..... In December of 1990 I was told I was going to land in Saudi Arabia and soon face 1M+ of Saddam's Iraqi soldiers.... "Elite Republican Guard".....

Schit didn't work out for them as expected.

01-20-2014, 09:40 AM	#21
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: It's become very apparent Originally Posted by Saintaintso No matter which way you spin it as of right now we don't have the personnel to compete with the Patrick Willis's of the world nor the Richard Sherman's nor the Aldon Smith's. I think we do. San Francisco 49ers vs. New Orleans Saints - Box Score - November 17, 2013 - ESPN I think the team could use some tweaking but no reason to blow anything up right now. ScottF and TheOak like this.

01-20-2014, 10:06 AM	#22
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: It's become very apparent Originally Posted by Beastmode I have way more confidence in Peyton and his receivers than Seattle and their defense. I fully expect it to be a blowout. I sure hope so.

01-20-2014, 10:15 AM	#23
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01-20-2014, 11:09 AM	#24
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: It's become very apparent Originally Posted by Saintaintso If we're going to win another bowl ... We're either going through the Seahawks or the 49ers. If we hope to compete with them we need to overhaul our team. ! another overhaul thread... we were ONE play away from having home field- Pats, Carolina, even the Jets. We also showed up 2 hours late for the Seattle PO game how many guys need to go? we have 5 guys on defense on IR that can start We have 9 solid offensive players, with two not far behind. TAG Jimmy, sign Strief, and draft BPA. Seattle gets the first place schedule and has a tough division. We'll be fine. Halo, jnormand and Utah_Saint like this.

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hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: It's become very apparent If REFs will not call a fair game then all saints can do is break the bank next two years an penny pinch in the out years,DREW is 35 saints have a two to three years when drew is at top of his game.Hardst thing to find is a elite QB Saints haveone may not again for another 10 to 15 years.Refs will not ever help us again all that can be done is break the bankYes after drew retires Saints will have to have a roster of half rookie UFDA players to get under cap.49ers did so along with ravens spend to win now an accept a few lean years.
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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: It's become very apparent Originally Posted by Saintaintso Did I refer to any saying we needed thugs ? Negative ... I said there is a clear drop off of talent when playing physical teams ... We are soft , and what they say about us is apparent and true ... From the gate we are in damage control mode against physical teams and it shows , we play different , we play intimidated I say physical and automatically think of thugs ? Give me a team of physical freaks you can keep the finesse offense because against the cream of the crop it don't work !!! We had like a 5 game lead in our division and lost to a team we had no business losing to because they play with a chip on their shoulders ( Carolina ) ... And your going to tell me were just fine ??? Blasphemy !!!! there's a couple of teams with physical freaks sitting on the couch right next to us, and I be damned if it ain't the team you said is better than us. We actually are just fine... A stop against Carolina, and a call against New England and you would be singing a different tune.... ScottF likes this.

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Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: It's become very apparent We lost 3 division clinchers in a row ! Any of which has us winning and most likely playing in this Super Bowl as our home filed advantage is that good ... To say we're fine you're lying to yourself ... And despite what the stats said against San Fran they don't show just how many plays DLP or Strief we're hanging on by just a thread ... Oh and has everyone completely forgotten that the falcons are legit contenders on a very down year and will be back ? And Carolina is getting better ( obviously enough to hawk us on a 5 game division lead ) Anyone forgotten about Lovie smith going to that already elite defense in Tampa ? What about Aaron Rodgers returning with the pack when they get back in track ? We're lying to ourselves if we think we're okay how we are
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01-20-2014, 07:57 PM	#30
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	It's become very apparent Originally Posted by Saintaintso We lost 3 division clinchers in a row ! Any of which has us winning and most likely playing in this Super Bowl as our home filed advantage is that good ... To say we're fine you're lying to yourself ... And despite what the stats said against San Fran they don't show just how many plays DLP or Strief we're hanging on by just a thread ... Oh and has everyone completely forgotten that the falcons are legit contenders on a very down year and will be back ? And Carolina is getting better ( obviously enough to hawk us on a 5 game division lead ) Anyone forgotten about Lovie smith going to that already elite defense in Tampa ? What about Aaron Rodgers returning with the pack when they get back in track ? We're lying to ourselves if we think we're okay how we are May I borrow your logic? We are Super Bowl Champions on a down year and will be back on track. The teams above can't hold our jock. Yet another "everyone else is elite and we are crap" posts. You'll have to excuse me..... In December of 1990 I was told I was going to land in Saudi Arabia and soon face 1M+ of Saddam's Iraqi soldiers.... "Elite Republican Guard"..... Schit didn't work out for them as expected.
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