Saintaintso

If we're going to win another bowl ... We're either going through the Seahawks or the 49ers. If we hope to compete with them we need to overhaul our team. We've already gotten a head start with the resurgence of our defense led by Rob Ryan. Now It's time for the offense to step to the plate. The conservative way of thinking has served us well in developing players that weren't immediate eye openers at first. But our lack of talent is very apparent when playing top-level competition. No matter which way you spin it as of right now we don't have the personnel to compete with the Patrick Willis's of the world nor the Richard Sherman's nor the Aldon Smith's. In the past we have moderately pursued talent that fell to us this time around keeping Brees's clock in mind we need to aggressively pursue weapons.

We need to quit being so doggone nice and start besting folks so bad the talk about running up the score becomes a problem again.

Trade up , sign superstars let's make some darn noise !

You Can't Say Impossible without first saying Im Possible ...

Jack Vegas

Meh, things change so fast. I don't think either team is a flash in the pan. But the Packers looked like an invincible dynasty team 2 years ago and this year they barely scraped their way into the playoffs.

In particular I can see Seattle imploding in a couple of years. They've got a lot of loudmouths. Big thug talk and bravado can get you a ways but sooner or later you're going to come up against a better team and all that evaporates.

I do not want the Saints to strive to become like either of these teams. It is not who we are as a team or city. They get their day in the sun right now and that's fine, but they don't have the class and professionalism of organizations like the Saints, Patriots, Packers and a few other teams that aren't a total thugged-out embarrassment to the league.

The Dude

Green Bay didn't have their starting QB for damn near half a season and still made it. If Brees missed the same number of games as Rodgers we wouldn't have made the playoffs at all. Green Bay will be in the thick of it like it or not for a long time to come.
I agree that Seattle and SF look like the teams to beat for the next few years, but we aren't far off. IT is going to start with fixing our offensive line and adding a WR who can stretch.
Brees was not near as accurate this year because our line gave him absolutely no time in the pocket and he was running for his life and we got to see how good our receivers really are. Brees, when he is protected, makes our receivers look better than they actually are. Don't get me wrong we have good receivers, but no where near great.
This is why it kills me when Falcons fans try and say that Ryan is better than Drew. We saw what happened to Ryan this year when he didn't have elite receivers to throw too. If Brees had Julio and White it wouldn't even be fair.

We draft an early round WR and draft Online and DB with a couple decent free agents sprinkled in and we can be right back at the top.

Jack Vegas

Yes, because their division was straight garbage. This team with this defense could have easily gone 8-8 with McCown at QB, especially considering how ineffective Brees/offense were down the stretch.

Saintaintso

Dude they're in the Super Bowl and just canned us ...

Jack Vegas

So that means we have to sink to their level? No thanks, I'd rather be proud of the team I root for than get another Super Bowl acting like a bunch of thugged-out trash.

Vrillon82

Officiating put Seattle in the SB this year to give Peyton Manning a free ride at the Lombardi.

They did in 2006, they did in 2009 although it backfired. They doing it again this year.

Jamessr

You don't really think football is rigged do you?

Vrillon82

I hate to think it.

But I believe its been rigged for a good part of 15-16 years if not longer.

I try to not pay attention to it, but its hard not to when you see so many glaring problems that pop up, most of it with the league.

Fantasy Football
Story Lines created by the media
Vegas
Officiating
Roger Goodell
Spygate where evidence was destroyed
Patriots winning 3 SBs following 9-11.


I will admit to something else, I have watched Wrestling as long as I have football, the similarities are there, difference is, players are not jobbing to other players or teams. Although you can make a case for the Atl/Car game in Week 16.


I still never figured out how the NFC sends so many different teams to the SB in the last 15 years (basically all but Dallas, Minny, Wash, and Detroit) all while the AFC only sends about 5 different teams in that time span compared to the NFCs what is it? 10-11 teams?

Perhaps alot of it has to do with NFL and its marketing of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning who has been in the SB 8 of those 15 years.

Everytime Peyton Manning has went into the SB, its an easy team.

2006 - Bears
2009 - Saints (thought this would be easy for Indy) Backfired.
2013 - Seahawks

I guarantee you and I would bet money on it, Denver will blow out Seattle by 20-25+ pts.

Much like Pittsburgh 2 titles the last decade off Arizona and Seattle. Theirs plenty stories behind the Rooneys as it is.

you cant make this **** up either.

the-commish

I don't think Peyton is going to beat Seattle. Seattle can score on the Denver defense. Not sure Denver can score enough on the Seattle D to win.