Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

K Major · 02-26-2014, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I'd rather spend that money locking up Jordan, Hicks, Galette and others long-term and start turning this into a run-heavy offense.

Agreed, but that is not who we are (run heavy) under the Sean Payton regime.

hagan714 · 02-26-2014, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If he's really asking for that kind of money, I'd trade him on draft day for a couple 1st rounders

houston or oakland would easily give up their pick for JG

hmmm maybe. i would look at team that is close to making a push in the playoff and here is were the list gets really short has the cap room

TheOak · 02-26-2014, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If he's really asking for that kind of money, I'd trade him on draft day for a couple 1st rounders

houston or oakland would easily give up their pick for JG

How are you going to trade him on Draft Day? What do you have to trade? JG will be a free agent before the draft.

Ive covered the sign him to trade him scenario. Your going to give him 12m a year to sign him?

This is what a 12m/year contract looks like.
Chris Long Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

As soon as you trade him you have at least 12m in dead money for this season.

Kryptonite · 02-26-2014, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

I guess this contract negotiation is the result of hanging out with Drew.
Get your money when you can, after all it is a business.

Might as well blame it on Obama as well...

foreverfan · 02-26-2014, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Kryptonite

Might as well blame it on Obama as well...

Please don't turn this thread into a political discussion.

hagan714 · 02-26-2014, 10:04 AM

March 3 - tagged

his move appeal - close call either way. TE vs WR

he let it be known he is not happy and the saints are not either but we will not let him walk.

now the vibes go out. the saints and grahams agent get calls on sign and trade deals.

May 8th we get our answer.

TheOak · 02-26-2014, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

March 3 - tagged

his move appeal - close call either way. TE vs WR

he let it be known he is not happy and the saints are not either but we will not let him walk.

now the vibes go out. the saints and grahams agent get calls on sign and trade deals.

May 8th we get our answer.

I may have not been clear when i explained it previously in another thread.

Have you taken into account that "tagged" is meaningless unless Jimmy agrees to it? If he doesn't sign that tag he is not tagged. You cant stop him from walking, he either walks to another team or walks home as a holdout.

If he signs a TE tag of 6.7m or a WR tag of 11.6M, as soon as you trade him you will have no Jimmy graham but will have either 6.7m or 11.6m in dead money. A tag is guaranteed money, it does not follow the player.

Your scenario leaves you with no Jimmy Graham and your cap space went from +7m to either dead broke or 4m over the cap. Either way what do you have to sign what you traded him for?

ScottF · 02-26-2014, 10:44 AM

You can't demand 33% more than the highest paid guy (Gronkowski), and you're not going to get more than the WR tag.
Remember that his agent works for the same group as Condom, Brees' agent. Early hardball.

B_Dub_Saint · 02-26-2014, 10:56 AM

No friggin way Jimmy. Team first dude then get your money. If you invest your money right, you can earn a total of 12 mil a year.

brees84 · 02-26-2014, 11:30 AM

Go after Verner and draft best FS available. That secondary would be legit. Jimmy can walk...

02-26-2014, 09:04 AM	#31
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I'd rather spend that money locking up Jordan, Hicks, Galette and others long-term and start turning this into a run-heavy offense. Agreed, but that is not who we are (run heavy) under the Sean Payton regime. hagan714 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by dizzle88 If he's really asking for that kind of money, I'd trade him on draft day for a couple 1st rounders houston or oakland would easily give up their pick for JG hmmm maybe. i would look at team that is close to making a push in the playoff and here is were the list gets really short has the cap room

02-26-2014, 09:35 AM	#33
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by dizzle88 If he's really asking for that kind of money, I'd trade him on draft day for a couple 1st rounders houston or oakland would easily give up their pick for JG How are you going to trade him on Draft Day? What do you have to trade? JG will be a free agent before the draft. Ive covered the sign him to trade him scenario. Your going to give him 12m a year to sign him? This is what a 12m/year contract looks like. Chris Long Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile As soon as you trade him you have at least 12m in dead money for this season.

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02-26-2014, 10:04 AM	#36
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? March 3 - tagged his move appeal - close call either way. TE vs WR he let it be known he is not happy and the saints are not either but we will not let him walk. now the vibes go out. the saints and grahams agent get calls on sign and trade deals. May 8th we get our answer.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season? Originally Posted by hagan714 March 3 - tagged his move appeal - close call either way. TE vs WR he let it be known he is not happy and the saints are not either but we will not let him walk. now the vibes go out. the saints and grahams agent get calls on sign and trade deals. May 8th we get our answer. I may have not been clear when i explained it previously in another thread. Have you taken into account that "tagged" is meaningless unless Jimmy agrees to it? If he doesn't sign that tag he is not tagged. You cant stop him from walking, he either walks to another team or walks home as a holdout. If he signs a TE tag of 6.7m or a WR tag of 11.6M, as soon as you trade him you will have no Jimmy graham but will have either 6.7m or 11.6m in dead money. A tag is guaranteed money, it does not follow the player. Your scenario leaves you with no Jimmy Graham and your cap space went from +7m to either dead broke or 4m over the cap. Either way what do you have to sign what you traded him for?
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