BlackandBlue

You, sir, are no Shaolin Master.

subguy

nope, your right just your master.... :whip:

BlackandBlue

bater

Euphoria

\"SELL SELL SELL!!! Tank it\" -saintswhodi LOSE ALL GAMES... If you want to tweak things to see what happens then its not SELL SELL SELL, its win baby. If you teak and you win and we find ourselves with the 17-30 pick in the draft how are you going to feel about that?

Tweaking things is commonly used by some teams as in FINDING A WAY TO WIN. Arizona, looking for a way to win on offense by changing QB\'s. Not SELL SELL SELL.

We know what happens when Bently is playing Guard... we didn\'t suck as bad. Bently at Center he has other things to deal with and not 100 percent on blocking although him at guard with what is going wrong with that line just might not help at all anyways.

[Edited on 4/12/2004 by Euphoria]

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saintswhodi

Maybe in the NFL you watch Euph, putting in young players means wins. But in the NFL I have seen, playing young players, especially those who have not played all season, generally denotes losses. Putting LeCharles back at guard puts who exactly at center? Someone not as good as LeCharles. Hello. How does that mean to \"tweak\" for wins? Yeah Arizona tweaked to two straight losses after taking out their starting qb, nice example my man. hahaha You proved my point. Thanks. SELL SELL SELL baby.

Euphoria

Bend, twist, bend, twist, everything around so you have something to say or attack people. I am willing to discuss issures with you but you\'re being a bit antagonistic here.

If your starting QB sucks, ya might want to change them out and see if you can get better chemistry with someone else, hell you can\'t go wrong if you are 3rd to last in scoring. You can\'t go much futher down than that... so you have nothing to lose and maybe more points to be gained. More points means more chances to win.

And if you read what is written and not what you want to read. Bently, not saying he is a better guard than center but our line seemed better when he was at Guard over all. Replacing a guard who isn\'t getting the job done and oh lets see here 7 year veteran Jacox at Center. Spend your time doing some research before you just go attacking people.

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saintswhodi

I didn\'t think I attacked you Euph, if I did I am sorry. Seems like you are following me from thread to thread to argue and it was getting annoying. I have no problem discussing things with you either.

If Jacox was a good center, wouldn\'t he have been there since the beginning? Why would they move LeCharles to center and keep him there if Jacox was a good center? Makes no sense to me. Jacox hasn\'t done it all season, seems like a change like that wouldn\'t help the line, but would get it ready for another center next season and LeCharles going back to guard for the future.

And you have yet to address my arguements about Baltimore and Tampa Bay\'s superbowl. Trent Dilfer and B-more\'s offense sucked in the year they won, but they did, carried by their defense. Same with Tampa. Their defense scored as many points as the Raiders offense in the Superbowl. So you have yet to convince me there is a good argument for Green benching McCown after he was 4-2 after an 0-3 start and had won two game sin a row. Then they promptly lose two games after the change so the move is even more fishy.

No attacks, but here is some more research for you. Green cut starting center Pete Kendall this year, who was immediately picked up by the Jets and starts for them leading Martin in the rushing attack. Surely that is a suspicious move. Also, they cut Superbowl MVP Dexter JAckson who was immediately signed back by Tampa Bay. Surely that is suspicious. Doesn\'t sound like a coach who wanted to win this year to me. But maybe we just have different opinions.

There attack free. Now if you could address the issues pointed out to you, we could move forward. I will say that it is hard to twist someone\'s words when you respond to EXACTLY what they have been saying, as I have been doing to you.

Euphoria

I have addressed those points and you simply either twisted them or chose to ignore them.

Bently at Guard... the line seemed to have been b-e-t-t-e-r, overall. We are being blitz from Guard spot to the outside like mad, its an open invite to come on in and join the party. This thought was simply being shared as possible \'tweaks\'.

You were the one to add stuff to a thread that had nothing to do with the thread but ok... Baltimore and Tampa\'s, offense didn\'t SUCK as you refer to... Az yeah they are sucking. Ravens and Bucs didn\'t have a high scoring offense but could eat some time and did manage to score on occasion. AZ has neither dominating D or a average offense. Wheres Az\'s Jamal Lewis?

You might want to check the thread but I recall you writing away, and I didn\'t say anything the past few however finds you chasing me. HMMM, bend twist.

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saintswhodi

Okay, I give up posting to you cause I really don\'t know what world you live in. I started a thread about Denny Green, and you were the FIRST to post accusing me of having an agenda. And if you think B-more\'s offense didn\'t suck, when they did not score a td for a stretch of 5 straight weeks, I really don\'t know what to say. Also, since we are looking back at threads, who posted to who first in this one also. I give up. Since you use zero facts when disagreeing, there is no point in going on. I\'ll give you an example. You said \"B-more\'s and Tampa\'s offenses were not bad when their teams won the Superbowl.\" No facts backed that up. I said the opposite but gave the facts of B-more\'s offense not getting a td for 5 straight weeks during the season and Tampa\'s defense scoring as much as the Raiders in the Superbowl. Those were facts and can be looked up(cause I have). So there is no point in me continuing to disagree if the other party feels their opinions carry the same weight as facts. Later man. If you felt attacked as you were following me around, I apologize.

JOESAM2002

I warned you two. Now I have to lock 2 threads cause ya\'ll can\'t quit this.