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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I really want no part of Dupree, Ray nor Gregory... Want a true 3-4 OLB... In the first, Beasley, Fowler or Harold... And a true 3-4 ILB... In the second, Anthony, McKinney or Perryman......

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Old 03-07-2015, 09:25 PM   #1
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Re: 2015 draft??

I really want no part of Dupree, Ray nor Gregory...

Want a true 3-4 OLB...

In the first, Beasley, Fowler or Harold...

And a true 3-4 ILB...

In the second, Anthony, McKinney or Perryman...
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:34 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I really want no part of Dupree, Ray nor Gregory...

Want a true 3-4 OLB...

In the first, Beasley, Fowler or Harold...

And a true 3-4 ILB...

In the second, Anthony, McKinney or Perryman...
Couldn't agree more. When it comes to Dupree, beware of guys that are Combine stars but have average production on the field. Do not use potential as a deciding factor in the first round.

I think McKinney and Perryman go late in the first round to ILB needy teams like Green Bay and Indy. If Anthony is still available when the second round starts then I want to trade up and snag him.
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:20 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I really want no part of Dupree, Ray nor Gregory...

Want a true 3-4 OLB...

In the first, Beasley, Fowler or Harold...

And a true 3-4 ILB...

In the second, Anthony, McKinney or Perryman...
Agree, but I could agree more. Don't like Beasley and especially not Fowler in the 1st. Hope I'm wrong. Would like someone safer...OL or another OLB.

Really hoping for ILB in the 2nd or 3rd.
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:26 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I really want no part of Dupree, Ray nor Gregory...

Want a true 3-4 OLB...

In the first, Beasley, Fowler or Harold...

And a true 3-4 ILB...

In the second, Anthony, McKinney or Perryman...
I have read some really hit or miss reports on Harold.



What do you think on Arik Armstead?
Maybe to much of a project for us at the moment.

I want Collins if he is there,let him compete for a spot at T/OG this year and he is ready to take over from Grubbs next year at worst. Armstead-Collins anchoring the left side wiuld be nasty.
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Old 03-07-2015, 11:14 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
I have read some really hit or miss reports on Harold.



What do you think on Arik Armstead?
Maybe to much of a project for us at the moment.

I want Collins if he is there,let him compete for a spot at T/OG this year and he is ready to take over from Grubbs next year at worst. Armstead-Collins anchoring the left side wiuld be nasty.
I think we blew our high risk selection with Stanley Jean Baptiste...

Would love to have the 'luxury' of selecting Armstead, but we can't now that we're behind the 8 ball at both CB and LB...
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:27 AM   #6
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I have read some really hit or miss reports on Harold.

What do you think on Arik Armstead?
Maybe to much of a project for us at the moment.
Dupree and Arik are those hyped picks that scare the heck out of me. you understand it and you see it but no matter how you look it they are a hard 3 to roll at 13. you look like a genius or you never hear the end of it.

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I want Collins if he is there,let him compete for a spot at T/OG this year and he is ready to take over from Grubbs next year at worst. Armstead-Collins anchoring the left side wiuld be nasty.
Sweet. now get a RT that is athletic like Armstead and you set. I have thrown out the old school RT guide lines. Elite playoff teams can beat from either side.

The way the boards are looking and all the crap about Brandon Scherff being the one that is the true OG btween the two, you never know either one one could be there.

now see if the rumors with bills are true and package Grubbs off to the Bills. He is the one they supossedly really wanted not Evens.

Draft a polished plug and play OT like Jake Fisher and we are all set.

either OT goes down he can step in play either side.

You have a OG that can jump out side if thing get really banged up at OT.

I like the versatility the 2 picks would give the saints on the OL in the time of need to reshuffle.

Ok how the OG/OC situation? one piece away from solving this issue maybe?

Ali Marpet has climbed up the boards to the 2/3 range now in most places.

3 OL in the first three rounds? boring but i could live with it

Ben Beckwith OG/OC day three instead? maybe

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I really want no part of Dupree, Ray nor Gregory...

Want a true 3-4 OLB...
Combine workout warrior. When I watch his body of work, nothing stands out or is overly impressive.

Pass on "Bud" Dupree.
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The sack numbers are not there but he gets pressure and gets tackles behind the line. 13 is too early but trade back to say 20/25 and if he is there could be a good pick

Alvin Dupree, DE, Kentucky*
Height: 6-4. Weight: 269.*
40 Time: 4.56.*
Projected Round (2015): 1-2.*
3/7/15:*Dupree has a good skill set with speed, strength and athleticism. He needs to keep refining his pass-rushing moves. Sources have told WalterFootball.com that Dupree could go from the mid-first to the early second round. He used the Combine to put his freakish skill set on display with a ridiculously fast 40 time and athleticism in the field drills.*

The senior recorded 74 tackles with 11.5 tackles for a loss, one pass batted, one interception, two forced fumbles and 7.5 sacks in 2014. He was much more disruptive than the numbers illustrate, and his sack production was hurt by going against eight read-option offenses. Even though Dupree didn't have a huge stat line, he was very good against Florida as he caused a lot of disruption with pressure. Dupree had a huge pick-six against South Carolina in Kentucky's seven-point upset win. He did not impress against Georgia.*

8/23/14:*Dupree is a quick, strong and physical defender who can play defensive end and outside linebacker. For the NFL, he would be an interesting 3-4 outside linebacker or right end in a 4-3 defense.*

Dupree played well in 2013 and was a nice weapon in Mark Stoops' defense. Dupree recorded 61 tackles with nine tackles for a loss, two forced fumbles, one pass broken up and seven sacks for the season. The junior was disruptive off the edge. He was wise to return for his senior year.*

It was nice to see Dupree build on his impressive 2012 season, when he totaled 91 tackles with 12.5 tackles for a loss, 6.5 sacks and a pass batted. It was his first year of significant playing time. Dupree totaled 21 tackles, 2.5 tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks, two passes broken up and a blocked kick as a freshman

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Agree,just wondering what you think if him as a talent. I really think we need more rotation at DE to keep the rushers fresh. I think its one of the reasons we struggled last year in creating pressure.
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Old 03-09-2015, 12:12 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
Agree,just wondering what you think if him as a talent. I really think we need more rotation at DE to keep the rushers fresh. I think its one of the reasons we struggled last year in creating pressure.
Well you gotta remember we didn't have the rotation we had in 2013...

John Jenkins started the season recovering from a torn pectoral muscle and really never had a chance to recover...

Because we lost Bunkley to injury, finally succumbing to the IR list after a season ending injury in November...

Glenn Foster, who really was our "secret" pass rush weapon in 2013 was placed on IR after an injury during the Detrot game and he was probably playing injured before that as well...

That's three of your six rotational guys on defense, so you wonder what happen on defense, you gotta factor in those guys and their injuries...

Now since Coach Payton is better keeping secrets re: injured players than our government, do we need to find replacements for guys that might not recover is another question...

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