2015 draft??

jeanpierre · 03-09-2015, 02:09 AM

This is huge when analyzing running backs for the draft...

2015 NFL Draft: Fumble rate among RB prospects - CBSSports.com

And why I wouldn't draft a RB in the first two rounds, maybe IU's Tevin Coleman in round three, though I'd take him if he's there in Round four...

Sarik · 03-09-2015, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Has anyone taken a look at Eli Harold DE/OLB from Virginia? Could be a decent 2nd round LB if they go for another position in the first

About 2 months behind on the Eli Harold train Mitch. Im a big fan...

I posted this about Eli Harold 2 months ago in reply to JeanPierre.
You can find it on page 20 of this thread...

"Honestly though...one of my options id love to start day 2 with is
Eli Harold - Virginia

Jeanpierre i think you could really grow to love this pick. Follow me for a minute....

Been watching a good amount of tape on him & really liked what i was seeing. Im sitting there thinking "who does this guy remind me of" & then it clicks...Jerry Attaochu. Nearly identical builds as well.
Attaochu: 6'3 252lbs
Harold: 6'4 250lbs

shows alot of similar traits we saw from Attaochu coming out of Georgia Tech. Pass rusher & disruptive. More athletic than what we have in JR Rite now as well. Shows he can set the edge, but can stand to improve."

Since then Harold has had a great Combine & Pro day, so like JeanPierre said, no chance he gets to us in the 2nd. He'll probably be drafted somewhere in the 20 range of the 1st Round. Would be more than happy to trade back to select Harold & gain extra picks.

jeanpierre · 03-09-2015, 03:59 AM

Not to steal your thunder Ambassador Sarik, but SaintsFan1976 should share with you as well...

But it was also this Jon Ledyard scouting report that has given me pause and take notice, not to mention watching as much video of Harold that I can find...

2015 NFL Draft Scouting Report: DE Eli Harold - Defensive Ends - NFL News - Pro Football Spot - Forums

But what really has caused me to want the Saints to make necessary moves to get Vic Beasley and Stephone Anthony is not their respective combine performances, per se...

it's the preparation, dedication they demonstrated to be in position to perform as they did...

Being the Saints like to make a bold splash, send either Grubbs or Galette or both to exchange first round picks for a top five pick to ensure Beasley and possibly move up to get Anthony in the the second round...

hagan714 · 03-09-2015, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This is huge when analyzing running backs for the draft...

2015 NFL Draft: Fumble rate among RB prospects - CBSSports.com

And why I wouldn't draft a RB in the first two rounds, maybe IU's Tevin Coleman in round three, though I'd take him if he's there in Round four...

heavy load carries? two 1000+ years and still

123.2 -- Jeremy Langford, Michigan State (8 3/4)

also impressive is
619.0 -- Malcolm Brown, Texas (10 1/4)

jeanpierre · 03-09-2015, 10:03 AM

Yeah, that is freakish with Malcolm Brown...I'd be worried that trend would correct himself once he was in the NFL...

And Langford has smaller hands among his contemporaries; coaching and technique can never be undervalued...

Sarik · 03-09-2015, 09:28 PM

Well one thing is for sure fellas...

With the recent cut of lofton & reported inevitable release of Hawthorne, if we dont target/land Perryman, Mckinney, Kendricks, Anthony or Dawson in the draft i'll be one very unhappy camper. Heres to landing two out of the five mentioned!! If not, id like to target Jordan Hicks in the 5th for an ILB position...Would love to go into camp with Mason Foster, Denzel Perryman/Stephone Anthony & Hicks.

Mr.Riaton · 03-09-2015, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sarik

Well one thing is for sure fellas...

With the recent cut of lofton & reported inevitable release of Hawthorne, if we dont target/land Perryman, Mckinney, Kendricks, Anthony or Dawson in the draft i'll be one very unhappy camper. Heres to landing two out of the five mentioned!! If not, id like to target Jordan Hicks in the 5th for an ILB position...Would love to go into camp with Mason Foster, Denzel Perryman/Stephone Anthony & Hicks.

That would be a sick LB corps!

|Mitch| · 03-09-2015, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sarik

Well one thing is for sure fellas...

With the recent cut of lofton & reported inevitable release of Hawthorne, if we dont target/land Perryman, Mckinney, Kendricks, Anthony or Dawson in the draft i'll be one very unhappy camper. Heres to landing two out of the five mentioned!! If not, id like to target Jordan Hicks in the 5th for an ILB position...Would love to go into camp with Mason Foster, Denzel Perryman/Stephone Anthony & Hicks.

The way this free agency period has started before it has even begun, every round of the draft should/could be spent on defense...

If Hawthorne is released, we have no starters inside; let alone depth... Not to mention needs at CB and on the line

Sarik · 03-09-2015, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

That would be a sick LB corps!

Wouldnt it?! I hope it happens.

One thing My Brother & I were discussing is we must hit on our 2nd, 3rd & 4th round picks. Thats where the main crop/meat is this year. We can go a number of routes in Round 1(OG/OT, LB, DT, CB, WR) & i'll be satisfied but we have to make those other picks count. Gotta find starters in 2&3 at the very least.

Hell i'll be completely fine with the Saints selecting Devante Parker in Rnd 1 only if they hit on selections the next 2 days, preferably defense.
Ex: Perryman, Anthony, Mckinney, Dawson, Tomlinson, Jarrett, Marpet, etc.

Although im a big fan of Devante Parker & would be ok with the pick, that is NOT the route i want to go...let it be known. Ha.

Mr.Riaton · 03-09-2015, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Sarik

Wouldnt it?! I hope it happens.

One thing My Brother & I were discussing is we must hit on our 2nd, 3rd & 4th round picks. Thats where the main crop/meat is this year. We can go a number of routes in Round 1(OG/OT, LB, DT, CB, WR) & i'll be satisfied but we have to make those other picks count. Gotta find starters in 2&3 at the very least.

Hell i'll be completely fine with the Saints selecting Devante Parker in Rnd 1 only if they hit on selections the next 2 days, preferably defense.
Ex: Perryman, Anthony, Mckinney, Dawson, Tomlinson, Jarrett, Marpet, etc.

I agree...as long as they address that O line also. Ingram and Brees need some help like Romo and Murray had.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? This is huge when analyzing running backs for the draft... 2015 NFL Draft: Fumble rate among RB prospects - CBSSports.com And why I wouldn't draft a RB in the first two rounds, maybe IU's Tevin Coleman in round three, though I'd take him if he's there in Round four... hagan714 and Sarik like this.
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Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Has anyone taken a look at Eli Harold DE/OLB from Virginia? Could be a decent 2nd round LB if they go for another position in the first About 2 months behind on the Eli Harold train Mitch. Im a big fan... I posted this about Eli Harold 2 months ago in reply to JeanPierre. You can find it on page 20 of this thread... "Honestly though...one of my options id love to start day 2 with is Eli Harold - Virginia Jeanpierre i think you could really grow to love this pick. Follow me for a minute.... Been watching a good amount of tape on him & really liked what i was seeing. Im sitting there thinking "who does this guy remind me of" & then it clicks...Jerry Attaochu. Nearly identical builds as well. Attaochu: 6'3 252lbs Harold: 6'4 250lbs shows alot of similar traits we saw from Attaochu coming out of Georgia Tech. Pass rusher & disruptive. More athletic than what we have in JR Rite now as well. Shows he can set the edge, but can stand to improve." Since then Harold has had a great Combine & Pro day, so like JeanPierre said, no chance he gets to us in the 2nd. He'll probably be drafted somewhere in the 20 range of the 1st Round. Would be more than happy to trade back to select Harold & gain extra picks. hagan714, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Not to steal your thunder Ambassador Sarik, but SaintsFan1976 should share with you as well... But it was also this Jon Ledyard scouting report that has given me pause and take notice, not to mention watching as much video of Harold that I can find... 2015 NFL Draft Scouting Report: DE Eli Harold - Defensive Ends - NFL News - Pro Football Spot - Forums But what really has caused me to want the Saints to make necessary moves to get Vic Beasley and Stephone Anthony is not their respective combine performances, per se... it's the preparation, dedication they demonstrated to be in position to perform as they did... Being the Saints like to make a bold splash, send either Grubbs or Galette or both to exchange first round picks for a top five pick to ensure Beasley and possibly move up to get Anthony in the the second round... saintsfan1976 and Sarik like this.
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03-09-2015, 06:16 AM	#504
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre This is huge when analyzing running backs for the draft... 2015 NFL Draft: Fumble rate among RB prospects - CBSSports.com And why I wouldn't draft a RB in the first two rounds, maybe IU's Tevin Coleman in round three, though I'd take him if he's there in Round four... heavy load carries? two 1000+ years and still 123.2 -- Jeremy Langford, Michigan State (8 3/4) also impressive is 619.0 -- Malcolm Brown, Texas (10 1/4)

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Yeah, that is freakish with Malcolm Brown...I'd be worried that trend would correct himself once he was in the NFL... And Langford has smaller hands among his contemporaries; coaching and technique can never be undervalued... hagan714 likes this.

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Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 draft?? Well one thing is for sure fellas... With the recent cut of lofton & reported inevitable release of Hawthorne, if we dont target/land Perryman, Mckinney, Kendricks, Anthony or Dawson in the draft i'll be one very unhappy camper. Heres to landing two out of the five mentioned!! If not, id like to target Jordan Hicks in the 5th for an ILB position...Would love to go into camp with Mason Foster, Denzel Perryman/Stephone Anthony & Hicks. K Major and Mr.Riaton like this.

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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by Sarik Well one thing is for sure fellas... With the recent cut of lofton & reported inevitable release of Hawthorne, if we dont target/land Perryman, Mckinney, Kendricks, Anthony or Dawson in the draft i'll be one very unhappy camper. Heres to landing two out of the five mentioned!! If not, id like to target Jordan Hicks in the 5th for an ILB position...Would love to go into camp with Mason Foster, Denzel Perryman/Stephone Anthony & Hicks. That would be a sick LB corps! Sarik likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by Sarik Well one thing is for sure fellas... With the recent cut of lofton & reported inevitable release of Hawthorne, if we dont target/land Perryman, Mckinney, Kendricks, Anthony or Dawson in the draft i'll be one very unhappy camper. Heres to landing two out of the five mentioned!! If not, id like to target Jordan Hicks in the 5th for an ILB position...Would love to go into camp with Mason Foster, Denzel Perryman/Stephone Anthony & Hicks. The way this free agency period has started before it has even begun, every round of the draft should/could be spent on defense... If Hawthorne is released, we have no starters inside; let alone depth... Not to mention needs at CB and on the line

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Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton That would be a sick LB corps! Wouldnt it?! I hope it happens. One thing My Brother & I were discussing is we must hit on our 2nd, 3rd & 4th round picks. Thats where the main crop/meat is this year. We can go a number of routes in Round 1(OG/OT, LB, DT, CB, WR) & i'll be satisfied but we have to make those other picks count. Gotta find starters in 2&3 at the very least. Hell i'll be completely fine with the Saints selecting Devante Parker in Rnd 1 only if they hit on selections the next 2 days, preferably defense. Ex: Perryman, Anthony, Mckinney, Dawson, Tomlinson, Jarrett, Marpet, etc. Although im a big fan of Devante Parker & would be ok with the pick, that is NOT the route i want to go...let it be known. Ha. Mr.Riaton likes this.

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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by Sarik Wouldnt it?! I hope it happens. One thing My Brother & I were discussing is we must hit on our 2nd, 3rd & 4th round picks. Thats where the main crop/meat is this year. We can go a number of routes in Round 1(OG/OT, LB, DT, CB, WR) & i'll be satisfied but we have to make those other picks count. Gotta find starters in 2&3 at the very least. Hell i'll be completely fine with the Saints selecting Devante Parker in Rnd 1 only if they hit on selections the next 2 days, preferably defense. Ex: Perryman, Anthony, Mckinney, Dawson, Tomlinson, Jarrett, Marpet, etc. I agree...as long as they address that O line also. Ingram and Brees need some help like Romo and Murray had.

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