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MarchingOn 04-11-2015 11:16 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 649150)
Nor should any of us...

If you're gonna spend a first round pick on a right tackle, I'd spend it on Oregon's Fisher...but I wouldn't waste it on the Pitt guy...

Should Colorado St's Ty Sambrailo falls to us with one of our third round picks, that'd be a gifted athlete to grab and best scenario...

Third Round targets include OU's Daryl Williams, Texas A&M's Cedric Ogbuehi, or Penn St's Donovan Smith...

The priority after initial FA and subsequent trades has to be that front seven in the defense (OLB, DE, ILB); it has got to be fortified, improved.

Some late round sleepers - Toledo's Chase Nelson and West Virginia's Mark Glowinski and Eastern Washington's Jake Rodgers...

Rodgers is the guy I've started taking a real interest in and someone I'd hope the Saints are as well...

I'd add Tre Jackson in the 3rd. Maybe even the 2nd if we haven't taken OL by then.

MarchingOn 04-11-2015 11:18 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 649154)
Negative Report on DT Eddie Goldman...

The news wasn't quite as good for massive defensive tackle Eddie Goldman, however, who did not work out at the combine.

Given his broad 6-4, 336-pound frame, no one was expecting Goldman to run a particularly fast time in the 40-yard dash and he didn't, clocking in at roughly 5.30.

Goldman also showed less explosiveness than expected, however, producing just a 26-inch vertical jump and 19 repetitions of 225 pounds in the bench press, numbers that would have ranked among the worst among defensive tackles tested at the combine.


Source: 2015 NFL Draft: 5 takeaways from this week's Pro Day workouts - CBSSports.com

Now my interest is even more keen with my Pick No. 187 (R6, 11) NT Deon Simon, Northwestern St (LA); 6’ 4⅜”, 321 lbs...

Now MY interest is piqued in Goldman for #31. Who cares what his workout numbers are? Watch the tape. Every year teams talk themselves outta great players due to stop-watches.

jeanpierre 04-12-2015 01:30 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
My All-In Mock Draft (Updated)

Staying with my plan to move up in the top ten (10) with the best, most viable trade partner, Oakland; at they're only twelve (12) true first rounders...

Pick Pos Name, Alma Mater, Height, Weight

Pick No. 004 (R1, 04) LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

Other than Scherff, this is the only player in the top 5-10 to truly have the biggest impact on our team; he's gets the edge over Scherff as there is only one question mark on the offensive line, Lelito, at this point and the defense performance demands this pick...

Pick No. 013 (R1, 13) (Traded Oakland) *1

Pick No. 031 (R1, 31) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson, 6' 2⅜", 243 lbs. (Via Seattle) *2

Move Anthony up to this pick as I don't think he goes through the gambit of another round of JAX, CHI, ATL, CLE without getting selected; this defense is in more dire need of an ILB as much as an OLB and Hawthorne has shown he's not the answer regardless of whether Ellerbe can have an impact...

Pick No. 044 (R2, 12) LB P.J. Williams, Florida St, 6' 0", 195 lbs.

Not sure this opportunity will present itself in light of his recent mistake, but if he's there, got to jump on this as we've got to get CB fixed on this team...

Pick No. 075 (R3, 11) WR Chris Conley, Georgia, 6' 2", 213 lbs.

Leading receiver in UGA offense that featured RB Gurley, he can flat out fly and provide that outside speed threat at the "Y" position in Saints 3 wide-out sets, really opening things up for Colston, Cooks et al to put the scare back into defenses...

Pick No. 078 (R3, 14) OT Rob Havenstein, Wisconsin, 6' 7", 321 lbs. (Via Miami) *3

Very much in the mould of Zach Strief; though he had poor measurables, they showed significant improvement between combine and pro-day; excellent candidate to tutelage behind Strief and could be ready by year three when Strief's contract expires; excellent depth regardless...

Pick No. 102 (R4, 03) OG Mark Glowinski, Georgia, 6' 4", 307 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

West Virginia OL has gone under the radar with teammate WR getting all the attention, but has show impressive measurables, intelligence, and athleticism to move up and warrant this selection...

Pick No. 112 (R4, 13) (Traded to Seattle) *2

Pick No. 148 (R5, 12) TE Blake Bell, Oklahoma, 6' 6", 252 lbs.

Like another kid that once played TE for the Saints, he's a big body with a small sample size, but it's impressive; former QB developing quickly into a red zone threat who could more than offer a rather large bucket to throw for our QB to score in the end zone...

Pick No. 154 (R5, 18) (Via Kansas City, Traded to Oakland) *4, *1

Pick No. 187 (R6, 11) NT Deon Simon, Northwestern St (LA); 6’ 4⅜”, 321 lbs

Great big, raw body that with the right coaching would be the steal of the draft; Bill Belichick, who knows a thing or two about defensive linemen, even sat in and participated in his combine interview. Bunkley's last season and to jumpstart another candidate for the NT rotation with Jenkins, we don't have to go far for this in-state product...

Pick No. 230 (R7, 13) DE Brian Mihalik, Boston College; 6' 9", 309 lbs.

Definitely a development project that will require at least a year in NFL conditioning program, weight room and position coaching, has demonstrated physical length at times to be an imposing player and would do great to learn behind our 3-4 Defensive Ends, his projected position.

*1 Mock Trade - NO sends Picks 013 (R1, 13), 154 (R5, 18), & Future 1st round pick (or Gallette or Vaccaro or Jordan) to OAK for Pick 004 (R1, 04), 102 (R4, 03).

*2 Graham Trade - NO sends All-Pro TE Jimmy Graham and Pick 112 (R4, 13) to SEA for All-Pro C Max Unger and Pick 031 (R1, 31)

*3 Stills Trade - NO sends WR Kenny Stills to MIA for LB Dannell Ellerbe and Pick 078 (R3, 14)

*4 Grubbs Trade - NO sends LG Ben Grubbs to KC for Pick 154 (R5, 18).

Alternate Selections/Priority Free Agents:

TE Brian Parker, Albany, 6' 4", 260 lbs.
WR Jake Kumerow, Wisconsin-Whitewater; 6' 4½", 208 lbs.
LB Tony Washington, Oregon, 6' 4", 245 lbs.
OL Tyler Moore, Florida, 6' 4", 325 lbs.
DL Olsen Pierre, Miami (FL), 6' 4", 300 lbs.

saintsfan1976 04-12-2015 04:29 PM

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I could get really excited about that draft JP.

SmashMouth 04-12-2015 05:32 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 649733)
My All-In Mock Draft (Updated)

Staying with my plan to move up in the top ten (10) with the best, most viable trade partner, Oakland; at they're only twelve (12) true first rounders...

Pick Pos Name, Alma Mater, Height, Weight

Pick No. 004 (R1, 04) LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

Other than Scherff, this is the only player in the top 5-10 to truly have the biggest impact on our team; he's gets the edge over Scherff as there is only one question mark on the offensive line, Lelito, at this point and the defense performance demands this pick...

Pick No. 013 (R1, 13) (Traded Oakland) *1

Pick No. 031 (R1, 31) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson, 6' 2⅜", 243 lbs. (Via Seattle) *2

Move Anthony up to this pick as I don't think he goes through the gambit of another round of JAX, CHI, ATL, CLE without getting selected; this defense is in more dire need of an ILB as much as an OLB and Hawthorne has shown he's not the answer regardless of whether Ellerbe can have an impact...

Pick No. 044 (R2, 12) LB P.J. Williams, Florida St, 6' 0", 195 lbs.

Not sure this opportunity will present itself in light of his recent mistake, but if he's there, got to jump on this as we've got to get CB fixed on this team...

Pick No. 075 (R3, 11) WR Chris Conley, Georgia, 6' 2", 213 lbs.

Leading receiver in UGA offense that featured RB Gurley, he can flat out fly and provide that outside speed threat at the "Y" position in Saints 3 wide-out sets, really opening things up for Colston, Cooks et al to put the scare back into defenses...

Pick No. 078 (R3, 14) OT Rob Havenstein, Wisconsin, 6' 7", 321 lbs. (Via Miami) *3

Very much in the mould of Zach Strief; though he had poor measurables, they showed significant improvement between combine and pro-day; excellent candidate to tutelage behind Strief and could be ready by year three when Strief's contract expires; excellent depth regardless...

Pick No. 102 (R4, 03) OG Mark Glowinski, Georgia, 6' 4", 307 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

West Virginia OL has gone under the radar with teammate WR getting all the attention, but has show impressive measurables, intelligence, and athleticism to move up and warrant this selection...

Pick No. 112 (R4, 13) (Traded to Seattle) *2

Pick No. 148 (R5, 12) TE Blake Bell, Oklahoma, 6' 6", 252 lbs.

Like another kid that once played TE for the Saints, he's a big body with a small sample size, but it's impressive; former QB developing quickly into a red zone threat who could more than offer a rather large bucket to throw for our QB to score in the end zone...

Pick No. 154 (R5, 18) (Via Kansas City, Traded to Oakland) *4, *1

Pick No. 187 (R6, 11) NT Deon Simon, Northwestern St (LA); 6’ 4⅜”, 321 lbs

Great big, raw body that with the right coaching would be the steal of the draft; Bill Belichick, who knows a thing or two about defensive linemen, even sat in and participated in his combine interview. Bunkley's last season and to jumpstart another candidate for the NT rotation with Jenkins, we don't have to go far for this in-state product...

Pick No. 230 (R7, 13) DE Brian Mihalik, Boston College; 6' 9", 309 lbs.

Definitely a development project that will require at least a year in NFL conditioning program, weight room and position coaching, has demonstrated physical length at times to be an imposing player and would do great to learn behind our 3-4 Defensive Ends, his projected position.

*1 Mock Trade - NO sends Picks 013 (R1, 13), 154 (R5, 18), & Future 1st round pick (or Gallette or Vaccaro or Jordan) to OAK for Pick 004 (R1, 04), 102 (R4, 03).

*2 Graham Trade - NO sends All-Pro TE Jimmy Graham and Pick 112 (R4, 13) to SEA for All-Pro C Max Unger and Pick 031 (R1, 31)

*3 Stills Trade - NO sends WR Kenny Stills to MIA for LB Dannell Ellerbe and Pick 078 (R3, 14)

*4 Grubbs Trade - NO sends LG Ben Grubbs to KC for Pick 154 (R5, 18).

Alternate Selections/Priority Free Agents:

TE Brian Parker, Albany, 6' 4", 260 lbs.
WR Jake Kumerow, Wisconsin-Whitewater; 6' 4½", 208 lbs.
LB Tony Washington, Oregon, 6' 4", 245 lbs.
OL Tyler Moore, Florida, 6' 4", 325 lbs.
DL Olsen Pierre, Miami (FL), 6' 4", 300 lbs.

Nice ... but wishful thinking if SP and company will go for that many LBers early.

jeanpierre 04-12-2015 07:27 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 649757)
Nice ... but wishful thinking if SP and company will go for that many LBers early.

Every year it gets louder and louder and even Payton can't ignore the need for linebackers...

Hopefully Ireland (Parcell's GM in Miami) will steer the draft so that the defense can be as balanced as the offense...

|Mitch| 04-12-2015 11:17 PM

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jeanpierre 04-13-2015 06:43 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 649785)

I'd rather do a New England, select a team that'll have a good shot at a top ten pick next year and trade our 13 to them for their 2nd round pick and a 2016 first round pick...

SmashMouth 04-13-2015 09:20 AM

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PFT mock draft 2015 | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre 04-13-2015 03:10 PM

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Gotta feeling we're selecting DGB if he's there at 31...


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