2015 draft??

blackangold · 12-25-2014, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

might just be the best football player in the draft. starting SS? that would make a ton of sense. side line to side line speed and keep him in the action. He has played it before and I bet he would lead this team in tackles season 1. at 6’1”, 237 4.56 he can either be an under sized OLB or a massive safety with solid speed. take your pick. all i know is i feel comfortable in saying he is a better SS and cover guy than kenny coming out of college.

fluid movement dropping back into coverage.
solid one-on-one match ups with tight ends

the kenny test this year was a flop. he is not a true SS so do not be surprised by a safety pick. we do not have a starter at that position and we all know we love safeties. solid back ups but a starter?

want to get the most out of the Byrd signing get him some help back there. Then add a CB or two in rounds 2 or 3 or 4. talent is there. all better prospects than SJB. I am betting he would have fallen into the 4/5 or 5/6 range this year.

with him on the field it would be like having 4 LB at all times vs this freaking 3 or 4 so so safety look we have now.

He is the freak or premier athlete in the draft without all the hyped upside or what if crap surrounding him. he is what he is. a freaking football player that you can get your money out of in more ways than 90% of the players on the saints today. RB LB SS special teams. he can open up a few rosters spots with his pick alone.

Shaq as a SS/LB type sealing up the middle of the field.

i like the the mix.

been waiting for his name to pop up.

Really can't agree with anything you said...

First, your trying to convert a LB/RB to a SS... I don't know where to start with that, because we have had such great success developing talent in the past right...

Secondly, there is no need for a true SS because the league is moving away from them all together. Furthermore we have 3 tremendous safeties on the roster already with Byrd, Warren and Bush. Byrd and Warren should start and Bush would be a great backup if one gets hurt; both Byrd and Warren tackle and play the run well so there is no need for a true SS.

Lastly, I really hope we don't take on any hybrid type players. Vaccaro is that type of player and we don't know how to manage them. The Saints organization is extremely poor at developing talent on the defensive side so it's important we are drafting players that have a defined role and can start day one.

I really dislike the prospect of Shaq for our team.

hagan714 · 12-26-2014, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

First, your trying to convert a LB/RB to a SS... I don't know where to start with that, because we have had such great success developing talent in the past right...

not really he played SS before moving to the OLB/RB role. Plus we need a safety that can plug the lanes big time.

he is a 3 down player all the way. bring in another safety move him down to LB. he wont miss a beat.

He is the type of player like Kenny you can line up all over the place. but instead of a CB?/S you have a S/LB.

I see another Kam Chancellor, in the kid

jeanpierre · 01-02-2015, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

not really he played SS before moving to the OLB/RB role. Plus we need a safety that can plug the lanes big time.

he is a 3 down player all the way. bring in another safety move him down to LB. he wont miss a beat.

He is the type of player like Kenny you can line up all over the place. but instead of a CB?/S you have a S/LB.

I see another Kam Chancellor, in the kid

Exactly.

12-25-2014, 08:19 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 might just be the best football player in the draft. starting SS? that would make a ton of sense. side line to side line speed and keep him in the action. He has played it before and I bet he would lead this team in tackles season 1. at 6’1”, 237 4.56 he can either be an under sized OLB or a massive safety with solid speed. take your pick. all i know is i feel comfortable in saying he is a better SS and cover guy than kenny coming out of college. fluid movement dropping back into coverage. solid one-on-one match ups with tight ends the kenny test this year was a flop. he is not a true SS so do not be surprised by a safety pick. we do not have a starter at that position and we all know we love safeties. solid back ups but a starter? want to get the most out of the Byrd signing get him some help back there. Then add a CB or two in rounds 2 or 3 or 4. talent is there. all better prospects than SJB. I am betting he would have fallen into the 4/5 or 5/6 range this year. with him on the field it would be like having 4 LB at all times vs this freaking 3 or 4 so so safety look we have now. He is the freak or premier athlete in the draft without all the hyped upside or what if crap surrounding him. he is what he is. a freaking football player that you can get your money out of in more ways than 90% of the players on the saints today. RB LB SS special teams. he can open up a few rosters spots with his pick alone. Shaq as a SS/LB type sealing up the middle of the field. i like the the mix. been waiting for his name to pop up. Really can't agree with anything you said... First, your trying to convert a LB/RB to a SS... I don't know where to start with that, because we have had such great success developing talent in the past right... Secondly, there is no need for a true SS because the league is moving away from them all together. Furthermore we have 3 tremendous safeties on the roster already with Byrd, Warren and Bush. Byrd and Warren should start and Bush would be a great backup if one gets hurt; both Byrd and Warren tackle and play the run well so there is no need for a true SS. Lastly, I really hope we don't take on any hybrid type players. Vaccaro is that type of player and we don't know how to manage them. The Saints organization is extremely poor at developing talent on the defensive side so it's important we are drafting players that have a defined role and can start day one. I really dislike the prospect of Shaq for our team.

12-26-2014, 04:58 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by blackangold First, your trying to convert a LB/RB to a SS... I don't know where to start with that, because we have had such great success developing talent in the past right... not really he played SS before moving to the OLB/RB role. Plus we need a safety that can plug the lanes big time. he is a 3 down player all the way. bring in another safety move him down to LB. he wont miss a beat. He is the type of player like Kenny you can line up all over the place. but instead of a CB?/S you have a S/LB. I see another Kam Chancellor, in the kid jeanpierre likes this.
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01-02-2015, 10:15 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 not really he played SS before moving to the OLB/RB role. Plus we need a safety that can plug the lanes big time. he is a 3 down player all the way. bring in another safety move him down to LB. he wont miss a beat. He is the type of player like Kenny you can line up all over the place. but instead of a CB?/S you have a S/LB. I see another Kam Chancellor, in the kid Exactly.

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