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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I've listed the 2015 cap and dead money figures for our 2015 team. If you look at the table, its obvious that we cannot trade several players that keep popping up in trade scenarios. Aint gonna happen Player....... Pos...... Cap ...
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Savings if cut or traded
I've listed the 2015 cap and dead money figures for our 2015 team.
If you look at the table, its obvious that we cannot trade several players that keep popping up in trade scenarios. Aint gonna happen
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
Nice work danno
In some instances I think we need to take a hit with the dead money to release or trade guys like David Hawthorne or Jahri Evans, however we are already quite far up the creak due to the back loaded contracts I wouldn't be completely shocked if Colston was let go, although 5 Mil in dead money is a lot for someone that SP probably still values quite a bit |
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
Originally Posted by dizzle88
I think people misunderstand the whole dead money thing. The actual cap savings is much more important. A lot of dead money is inefficient, but it doesn't impact the overall cap number if you are replacing the dead money player with someone of comparable skill and a cheaper salary.![]()
A simple example: For instance, if we cut Colston, we would take 9.7 million overall off the cap. We still have to pay Colston 5.4 million in dead money. But we have 4.3 million left to sign a wide receiver. And that's the big question when it comes to these moves. Could we find a $4.3 million dollar player in free agency to replace him? It seems likely we could, considering how badly he has played as of late. The Colts ate a ton of dead money contracts in 2012 and rebuilt that team from the ground up and have now made the playoffs three straight years. It's do-able. |
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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas
Ahh right thanks JV, that's actually helped a bunch because I think I misunderstood the dead money thing quite a bit![]()
So we do have an opportunity to free up quite a bit of money and get rid of any underachievers at the same time. |
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
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Exactly.![]()
Consider Curtis Lofton. He's way overpaid at 9 Million, but if we cut him could we find a better ILB for 4 million? |
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Originally Posted by Danno
Obviously anyone who advocates cutting Lofton is nuts. You're not going to find a LB of his caliber in the draft.![]()
But Hawthorne, Bunkley, Evans and Colston are all easily replaceable by mid-level free agent signings and a good draft pick or two. Loomis may not be a football expert, but he's no fool. He can see the guys who are not pulling their weight just like we can. Lelito has played like a stud though, just about every time he steps on the field - except for the first half of the Cardinals game last year when he got thrown in the fire. Since then, he's been money. |
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
Originally Posted by Jack Vegas
Lol kinda like advocating trading Graham for O line help?? Im glad you see that now Jack ha. We're in a tite space but hoping theres a quick turnover this offseason, bc next years schedule is lookin pretty darn favorable. Hopefully emotion & loyalty doesnt outweigh what has to be done to save this team.
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
IMO the big cuts are Hawthorne, Bunkley and Evans. That, combined with a Brees restructure, gets you in the black easily, and let's be honest those players won't be missed that much.
I hate to say that about Evans, I really do. But he is about 1/3rd the player he was when he was good. Loomis will manage the cap masterfully as he always does. |
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
Originally Posted by Jack Vegas
Evans had the benefit of another pro bowl guard right next to him. I believe due to the way Brees plays it is more important for us to have strong guards than tackles. If we got a strong guard to play next to Evans I think we can still get enough solid play out of him to protect Brees for the rest of Brees career. When Brees is done we switch our focus more to left tackle.
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Re: Savings if cut or traded
Originally Posted by The Dude
I would like a stud C and a strong G with Grubbs. If your going to protect Brees. Lelito is servicable but far from a stud. I think Evans may be done.
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