A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees

blackangold · 01-01-2015, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by vtiger72

Drew deserved the contract he got. He played in New Orleans for below market value for the entire first contract.

How do you play for under market value? Brees agreed to the terms of the deal and no one was looking at him at that point. If anything we overpaid for a QB coming off of a injury that some thought would end his career....lol

Market Value= what teams are willing to pay for said player, not what other players have been paid.

vtiger72 · 01-01-2015, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

How do you play for under market value? Brees agreed to the terms of the deal and no one was looking at him at that point. If anything we overpaid for a QB coming off of a injury that some thought would end his career....lol

Market Value= what teams are willing to pay for said player, not what other players have been paid.

Under that logic, then Brees is not overpaid now. The Saints agreed to the contract he received and structured it in the way they did. Had the Saints not signed him to that, he could have easily eclipsed it on the open market. Granted, another team likely would have structured it differently so that the cap hits were not so dramatic in the last two years. But, the Saints needed space those first three years and structured it so they could receive it. So, if the Saints willingly signed that contract it proved he was worth it. Why should they come to him now asking him to reduce what he is being paid?

blackangold · 01-01-2015, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by vtiger72

Under that logic, then Brees is not overpaid now. The Saints agreed to the contract he received and structured it in the way they did. Had the Saints not signed him to that, he could have easily eclipsed it on the open market. Granted, another team likely would have structured it differently so that the cap hits were not so dramatic in the last two years. But, the Saints needed space those first three years and structured it so they could receive it. So, if the Saints willingly signed that contract it proved he was worth it. Why should they come to him now asking him to reduce what he is being paid?

I never said brees should take less money due to his market value. Brees should take less uf he wants to win just like Brady did.

ScottF · 01-01-2015, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by vtiger72

Under that logic, then Brees is not overpaid now. The Saints agreed to the contract he received and structured it in the way they did. Had the Saints not signed him to that, he could have easily eclipsed it on the open market. Granted, another team likely would have structured it differently so that the cap hits were not so dramatic in the last two years. But, the Saints needed space those first three years and structured it so they could receive it. So, if the Saints willingly signed that contract it proved he was worth it. Why should they come to him now asking him to reduce what he is being paid?

Because that formula hasn't worked. Paying one superstar 20% of the cap bastardized our line: downgrades at three positions.
Brees is a smart man, but he has lost a Pro Bowl left tackle, an All-Pro guard, and a serviceable center. He can choose to get sacked and land on a fat wallet , or give up a little dough and get that extra half second in the pocket. Everyone knows that with time Brees can make any receiver look like Calvin Johnson

vtiger72 · 01-01-2015, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Because that formula hasn't worked. Paying one superstar 20% of the cap bastardized our line: downgrades at three positions.
Brees is a smart man, but he has lost a Pro Bowl left tackle, an All-Pro guard, and a serviceable center. He can choose to get sacked and land on a fat wallet , or give up a little dough and get that extra half second in the pocket. Everyone knows that with time Brees can make any receiver look like Calvin Johnson

Or the both the player can get paid and Saints could get room now, by extending Brees at market value where the dead money and hit to the cap will come in years that Brees will no longer be with the Saints. This would be a good deal for Brees and cause the Saints issues when he is no longer for the team. That may not be something the team is willing to do.

01-01-2015, 03:33 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by vtiger72 Drew deserved the contract he got. He played in New Orleans for below market value for the entire first contract. How do you play for under market value? Brees agreed to the terms of the deal and no one was looking at him at that point. If anything we overpaid for a QB coming off of a injury that some thought would end his career....lol Market Value= what teams are willing to pay for said player, not what other players have been paid.

01-01-2015, 06:58 PM	#2
vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by blackangold How do you play for under market value? Brees agreed to the terms of the deal and no one was looking at him at that point. If anything we overpaid for a QB coming off of a injury that some thought would end his career....lol Market Value= what teams are willing to pay for said player, not what other players have been paid. Under that logic, then Brees is not overpaid now. The Saints agreed to the contract he received and structured it in the way they did. Had the Saints not signed him to that, he could have easily eclipsed it on the open market. Granted, another team likely would have structured it differently so that the cap hits were not so dramatic in the last two years. But, the Saints needed space those first three years and structured it so they could receive it. So, if the Saints willingly signed that contract it proved he was worth it. Why should they come to him now asking him to reduce what he is being paid?
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01-01-2015, 08:14 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by vtiger72 Under that logic, then Brees is not overpaid now. The Saints agreed to the contract he received and structured it in the way they did. Had the Saints not signed him to that, he could have easily eclipsed it on the open market. Granted, another team likely would have structured it differently so that the cap hits were not so dramatic in the last two years. But, the Saints needed space those first three years and structured it so they could receive it. So, if the Saints willingly signed that contract it proved he was worth it. Why should they come to him now asking him to reduce what he is being paid? I never said brees should take less money due to his market value. Brees should take less uf he wants to win just like Brady did.

01-01-2015, 08:26 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by vtiger72 Under that logic, then Brees is not overpaid now. The Saints agreed to the contract he received and structured it in the way they did. Had the Saints not signed him to that, he could have easily eclipsed it on the open market. Granted, another team likely would have structured it differently so that the cap hits were not so dramatic in the last two years. But, the Saints needed space those first three years and structured it so they could receive it. So, if the Saints willingly signed that contract it proved he was worth it. Why should they come to him now asking him to reduce what he is being paid? Because that formula hasn't worked. Paying one superstar 20% of the cap bastardized our line: downgrades at three positions. Brees is a smart man, but he has lost a Pro Bowl left tackle, an All-Pro guard, and a serviceable center. He can choose to get sacked and land on a fat wallet , or give up a little dough and get that extra half second in the pocket. Everyone knows that with time Brees can make any receiver look like Calvin Johnson captainshawn likes this.

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vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185	Re: A win-win contract extension would make sense for Saints, Drew Brees Originally Posted by ScottF Because that formula hasn't worked. Paying one superstar 20% of the cap bastardized our line: downgrades at three positions. Brees is a smart man, but he has lost a Pro Bowl left tackle, an All-Pro guard, and a serviceable center. He can choose to get sacked and land on a fat wallet , or give up a little dough and get that extra half second in the pocket. Everyone knows that with time Brees can make any receiver look like Calvin Johnson Or the both the player can get paid and Saints could get room now, by extending Brees at market value where the dead money and hit to the cap will come in years that Brees will no longer be with the Saints. This would be a good deal for Brees and cause the Saints issues when he is no longer for the team. That may not be something the team is willing to do.
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