Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

lee909 · 03-10-2015, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th

I agree with this totally. I hope Unger stays healthy; he is a great player and will be missed in Seattle. He has had injuries but to be honest, he has had some bad luck. I will probably be a closet Saints fan next year and I really hope you take it to Dan Quinn.

Yeah,the media jumping all over the Saints for the deal as Graham is the highlights player. Fair trade all round. both team should be happy as long as the players stay fit

nola_swammi · 03-10-2015, 05:48 PM

Why trade him when they could've got a 1st and at least fifth rd pick last year? Now trade him for a 1st that might as well be a second rd pick and trade a 4th rd pick for a oft injured player when we have Tim Lelito on the roster has me puzzled. It didn't solve the cap, its not a definite answer at center and its not really a 1st rd pick when you're only 2 draft picks away from the second.

I AM PRAYING WE DRAFT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR OR WE WILL BE SAYING BYE TO THE BEST COACH THE SAINTS EVER HAD

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-10-2015, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Why trade him when they could've got a 1st and at least fifth rd pick last year?

Because a season passed. A season where due to injury for the second consecutive year simply did not have the production that matched the top of the line contract.

Now trade him for a 1st that might as well be a second rd pick and trade a 4th rd pick for a oft injured player when we have Tim Lelito on the roster has me puzzled. It didn't solve the cap, its not a definite answer at center and its not really a 1st rd pick when you're only 2 draft picks away from the second.

It gives the team options for packaging up for 10 top talent or trading down for more picks.

I AM PRAYING WE DRAFT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR OR WE WILL BE SAYING BYE TO THE BEST COACH THE SAINTS EVER HAD

I'm in definite agreement with that.

SFIAH

NOLA54 · 03-10-2015, 05:49 PM

On second thought he's not a blocker & perhaps Sean is still pissed about the fumble in the end zone against Atlanta.

lee909 · 03-10-2015, 06:04 PM

Dont shoot me,i know its Sanders BUT

Deion Sanders ‏@DeionSanders 19m19 minutes ago
For the Saints to let Jimmy Graham go being 1 of the best TE's in the game they know something we don't. #Truth

And im sure the same thing will be said by Seahawks insiders.front office.

dizzle88 · 03-10-2015, 06:12 PM

Imagine if we signed Browner, tramon Williams and Mason foster!

I hope we hear news about Foster soon.

QBREES9 · 03-10-2015, 06:27 PM

Ok, Josh Hill is not Jimmy Graham. Unger, we now have a center. Seahags 1st round pick. i don't know. Why all this hate on Jimmy? he was hurt last year. Did i miss something?

lee909 · 03-10-2015, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Ok, Josh Hill is not Jimmy Graham. Unger, we now have a center. Seahags 1st round pick. i don't know. Why all this hate on Jimmy? he was hurt last year. Did i miss something?

I dont think its hate,more than the normal people looking on the bright side of the deal. I think the concern are there that Jimmy wont have a long career with the new tackl rules and players taking out his legs. If your in Seattle you are saying we got rid of close to a second rounder and a centre that is starting to break down for a probowl TE.Its natural we did good

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Ok, Josh Hill is not Jimmy Graham. Unger, we now have a center. Seahags 1st round pick. i don't know. Why all this hate on Jimmy? he was hurt last year. Did i miss something?

Sometimes I wonder if we have people in this forum that work with the saints PR to always try to make something positive out of something that don't make sense. Of course I am always going to be pulling for my saints but dayum, I don't want to go back to the days of being the butt of all jokes or not having a decent come back to all the haters. This don't make sense, JG was injured and still suiting up to play often as decoy. If you going to trade him why trade him to a team we will most likely have to face in the playoffs and make them stronger,,surely 16 teams in the AFc would' ve love to make that trade and 15 of them would've given us a higher draft pick than 31 overall pick

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Sometimes I wonder if we have people in this forum that work with the saints PR to always try to make something positive out of something that don't make sense. Of course I am always going to be pulling for my saints but dayum, I don't want to go back to the days of being the butt of all jokes or not having a decent come back to all the haters. This don't make sense, JG was injured and still suiting up to play often as decoy. If you going to trade him why trade him to a team we will most likely have to face in the playoffs and make them stronger,,surely 16 teams in the AFc would' ve love to make that trade and 15 of them would've given us a higher draft pick than 31 overall pick

I often find myself wondering why people always want to justify any move the Saints make, but this actually isn't one of them.

I don't see this as anyone hating on Jimmy, either. People are just realizing that we have bigger needs and something major had to happen. All this restructuring crap we do every year gets us nowhere. Now we free up Graham's cap space, plus the player and draft pick we got in return.

A proven commodity and a 1st rounder is better than two first rounders, neither of which are proven. That's what makes this a good deal. The only thing I don't like is that he's with the Seahawks, but as critical as I've been of our front office in recent years, I honestly don't think they would have traded him to THAT team without exploring all other options first. The most suitable return just ended up being the hags.

03-10-2015, 06:03 PM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by Seahawks12th I agree with this totally. I hope Unger stays healthy; he is a great player and will be missed in Seattle. He has had injuries but to be honest, he has had some bad luck. I will probably be a closet Saints fan next year and I really hope you take it to Dan Quinn. Yeah,the media jumping all over the Saints for the deal as Graham is the highlights player. Fair trade all round. both team should be happy as long as the players stay fit

03-10-2015, 05:48 PM	#2
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Why trade him when they could've got a 1st and at least fifth rd pick last year? Now trade him for a 1st that might as well be a second rd pick and trade a 4th rd pick for a oft injured player when we have Tim Lelito on the roster has me puzzled. It didn't solve the cap, its not a definite answer at center and its not really a 1st rd pick when you're only 2 draft picks away from the second. I AM PRAYING WE DRAFT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR OR WE WILL BE SAYING BYE TO THE BEST COACH THE SAINTS EVER HAD darksoul35 and Audiotom like this.

03-10-2015, 06:43 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi Why trade him when they could've got a 1st and at least fifth rd pick last year? Because a season passed. A season where due to injury for the second consecutive year simply did not have the production that matched the top of the line contract. Now trade him for a 1st that might as well be a second rd pick and trade a 4th rd pick for a oft injured player when we have Tim Lelito on the roster has me puzzled. It didn't solve the cap, its not a definite answer at center and its not really a 1st rd pick when you're only 2 draft picks away from the second. It gives the team options for packaging up for 10 top talent or trading down for more picks. I AM PRAYING WE DRAFT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR OR WE WILL BE SAYING BYE TO THE BEST COACH THE SAINTS EVER HAD I'm in definite agreement with that. SFIAH

03-10-2015, 05:49 PM	#4
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,709 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks On second thought he's not a blocker & perhaps Sean is still pissed about the fumble in the end zone against Atlanta.

03-10-2015, 06:04 PM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Dont shoot me,i know its Sanders BUT Deion Sanders ‏@DeionSanders 19m19 minutes ago For the Saints to let Jimmy Graham go being 1 of the best TE's in the game they know something we don't. #Truth And im sure the same thing will be said by Seahawks insiders.front office.

03-10-2015, 06:12 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,653	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Imagine if we signed Browner, tramon Williams and Mason foster! I hope we hear news about Foster soon.

03-10-2015, 06:27 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Ok, Josh Hill is not Jimmy Graham. Unger, we now have a center. Seahags 1st round pick. i don't know. Why all this hate on Jimmy? he was hurt last year. Did i miss something?

03-10-2015, 06:30 PM	#8
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by QBREES9 Ok, Josh Hill is not Jimmy Graham. Unger, we now have a center. Seahags 1st round pick. i don't know. Why all this hate on Jimmy? he was hurt last year. Did i miss something? I dont think its hate,more than the normal people looking on the bright side of the deal. I think the concern are there that Jimmy wont have a long career with the new tackl rules and players taking out his legs. If your in Seattle you are saying we got rid of close to a second rounder and a centre that is starting to break down for a probowl TE.Its natural we did good ChrisXVI likes this.

03-11-2015, 02:19 AM	#9
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by QBREES9 Ok, Josh Hill is not Jimmy Graham. Unger, we now have a center. Seahags 1st round pick. i don't know. Why all this hate on Jimmy? he was hurt last year. Did i miss something? Sometimes I wonder if we have people in this forum that work with the saints PR to always try to make something positive out of something that don't make sense. Of course I am always going to be pulling for my saints but dayum, I don't want to go back to the days of being the butt of all jokes or not having a decent come back to all the haters. This don't make sense, JG was injured and still suiting up to play often as decoy. If you going to trade him why trade him to a team we will most likely have to face in the playoffs and make them stronger,,surely 16 teams in the AFc would' ve love to make that trade and 15 of them would've given us a higher draft pick than 31 overall pick

03-11-2015, 03:06 AM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi Sometimes I wonder if we have people in this forum that work with the saints PR to always try to make something positive out of something that don't make sense. Of course I am always going to be pulling for my saints but dayum, I don't want to go back to the days of being the butt of all jokes or not having a decent come back to all the haters. This don't make sense, JG was injured and still suiting up to play often as decoy. If you going to trade him why trade him to a team we will most likely have to face in the playoffs and make them stronger,,surely 16 teams in the AFc would' ve love to make that trade and 15 of them would've given us a higher draft pick than 31 overall pick I often find myself wondering why people always want to justify any move the Saints make, but this actually isn't one of them. I don't see this as anyone hating on Jimmy, either. People are just realizing that we have bigger needs and something major had to happen. All this restructuring crap we do every year gets us nowhere. Now we free up Graham's cap space, plus the player and draft pick we got in return. A proven commodity and a 1st rounder is better than two first rounders, neither of which are proven. That's what makes this a good deal. The only thing I don't like is that he's with the Seahawks, but as critical as I've been of our front office in recent years, I honestly don't think they would have traded him to THAT team without exploring all other options first. The most suitable return just ended up being the hags.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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