Argument against this?

RaginCajun83 · 04-12-2015, 08:49 PM

NO NO NO NO NO NO

just stay at 13 and 31, take BPA with both picks

NonieT · 04-12-2015, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

NO NO NO NO NO NO

just stay at 13 and 31, take BPA with both picks

Agree, or trade down for more picks.

RaginCajun83 · 04-12-2015, 08:54 PM

It takes another team to trade down, it's not as easy as you think

spkb25 · 04-12-2015, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

If you want to play with words knock yourself out, but 31st pick is a first round pick and comes with a 5th year option. A second round pick does not. As I said, the Saints have one 2nd round pick. As for moving up, they shouldn't. They should keep all of their picks and take BPA.

play with words, okay it is a first that is two picks ahead of a second, who cares, it is as good as a second, so we are not losing anything there. Again, I am not saying we will, but if the guy we want requires it I say we pull the trigger

spkb25 · 04-12-2015, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft.

I understand your point, but that wasn't when we had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds

spkb25 · 04-12-2015, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Thank you for correcting me.

I could see our draft play out like this:

Trade a 2nd to get a higher 1st. Then draft at 31

Trade a 4th to get back into the 2nd.

our 4rth went for Unger

spkb25 · 04-12-2015, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Agree, or trade down for more picks.

There ya go, and if we're lucky we can trade everything and own the entire 7th round...

Why the hell would we need more than 9 pick...?

NonieT · 04-12-2015, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

It takes another team to trade down, it's not as easy as you think

Didn't say it was easy. I simply meant if they have the opportunity they should trade down.

RaginCajun83 · 04-12-2015, 10:01 PM

Under Loomis/Peyton the Saints seldom trade down, most times they trade up

ChrisXVI · 04-12-2015, 10:58 PM

You guys do know who our GM is right? Do you really think he's magically going to get conservative with the draft? Loomis trades up... Even when he doesn't have the extra draft picks to make easier. I don't think we trade up from 13... But we're using that extra 3rd round pick to help us move up from 31 or 44.

04-12-2015, 08:49 PM	#21
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Argument against this? NO NO NO NO NO NO just stay at 13 and 31, take BPA with both picks

04-12-2015, 08:52 PM	#22
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 NO NO NO NO NO NO just stay at 13 and 31, take BPA with both picks Agree, or trade down for more picks.
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04-12-2015, 08:54 PM	#23
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Argument against this? It takes another team to trade down, it's not as easy as you think

04-12-2015, 09:03 PM	#24
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by NonieT If you want to play with words knock yourself out, but 31st pick is a first round pick and comes with a 5th year option. A second round pick does not. As I said, the Saints have one 2nd round pick. As for moving up, they shouldn't. They should keep all of their picks and take BPA. play with words, okay it is a first that is two picks ahead of a second, who cares, it is as good as a second, so we are not losing anything there. Again, I am not saying we will, but if the guy we want requires it I say we pull the trigger

04-12-2015, 09:05 PM	#25
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft. I understand your point, but that wasn't when we had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds

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04-12-2015, 09:06 PM	#26
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Thank you for correcting me. I could see our draft play out like this: Trade a 2nd to get a higher 1st. Then draft at 31 Trade a 4th to get back into the 2nd. our 4rth went for Unger

04-12-2015, 09:08 PM	#27
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by NonieT Agree, or trade down for more picks. There ya go, and if we're lucky we can trade everything and own the entire 7th round... Why the hell would we need more than 9 pick...?

04-12-2015, 09:34 PM	#28
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 It takes another team to trade down, it's not as easy as you think Didn't say it was easy. I simply meant if they have the opportunity they should trade down.
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04-12-2015, 10:01 PM	#29
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Argument against this? Under Loomis/Peyton the Saints seldom trade down, most times they trade up Beastmode and halloween 65 like this.

04-12-2015, 10:58 PM	#30
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Argument against this? You guys do know who our GM is right? Do you really think he's magically going to get conservative with the draft? Loomis trades up... Even when he doesn't have the extra draft picks to make easier. I don't think we trade up from 13... But we're using that extra 3rd round pick to help us move up from 31 or 44. saintsfan1976 and RaginCajun83 like this.

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