Argument against this?

TwistedTiger · 04-12-2015, 04:27 PM

The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft.

saintsfan1976 · 04-12-2015, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft.

Sure, but a roster is only 51 guys. Are you saying all 9 draft picks will make the roster/PS?

Look if we lose one pick to grab a difference maker and still have 4 picks in the top 78, I'm feeling pretty good.

TwistedTiger · 04-12-2015, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Sure, but a roster is only 51 guys. Are you saying all 9 draft picks will make the roster/PS?

Look if we lose one pick to grab a difference maker and still have 4 picks in the top 78, I'm feeling pretty good.

No, the 3rd through 7th is a real crap shot. However the more picks you have there the more likely you are to hit on one or two. The first 3 picks are where the odds are high and the Saints need to hit on all three. Like I said, they aren't one great player away they are several quality starters away.

blackangold · 04-12-2015, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

No, the 3rd through 7th is a real crap shot. However the more picks you have there the more likely you are to hit on one or two. The first 3 picks are where the odds are high and the Saints need to hit on all three. Like I said, they aren't one great player away they are several quality starters away.

I dont think we NEED to hit on any picks to have a shot at the title this year.

We have a ton of talent with very minimal holes. You could argue this team has more talent than last years, we just need them to play to their potential.

I say trade up with #31 and target Beasley, keep 13 and see who falls.

saintsfan1976 · 04-12-2015, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

No, the 3rd through 7th is a real crap shot. However the more picks you have there the more likely you are to hit on one or two. The first 3 picks are where the odds are high and the Saints need to hit on all three. Like I said, they aren't one great player away they are several quality starters away.

Still doesn't make sense to me. Rounds 1 & 2 can be a crap shoot too.

Quantity of picks doesn't equate to good drafting.

And maybe the coaches and players do feel like they're 2-3 impact players away from making a difference.

spkb25 · 04-12-2015, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft.

I understand your point, but that wasn't when we had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,994 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft. Sure, but a roster is only 51 guys. Are you saying all 9 draft picks will make the roster/PS? Look if we lose one pick to grab a difference maker and still have 4 picks in the top 78, I'm feeling pretty good. spkb25, foreverfan, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

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TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Sure, but a roster is only 51 guys. Are you saying all 9 draft picks will make the roster/PS? Look if we lose one pick to grab a difference maker and still have 4 picks in the top 78, I'm feeling pretty good. No, the 3rd through 7th is a real crap shot. However the more picks you have there the more likely you are to hit on one or two. The first 3 picks are where the odds are high and the Saints need to hit on all three. Like I said, they aren't one great player away they are several quality starters away.
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04-12-2015, 07:34 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger No, the 3rd through 7th is a real crap shot. However the more picks you have there the more likely you are to hit on one or two. The first 3 picks are where the odds are high and the Saints need to hit on all three. Like I said, they aren't one great player away they are several quality starters away. I dont think we NEED to hit on any picks to have a shot at the title this year. We have a ton of talent with very minimal holes. You could argue this team has more talent than last years, we just need them to play to their potential. I say trade up with #31 and target Beasley, keep 13 and see who falls. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,994 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger No, the 3rd through 7th is a real crap shot. However the more picks you have there the more likely you are to hit on one or two. The first 3 picks are where the odds are high and the Saints need to hit on all three. Like I said, they aren't one great player away they are several quality starters away. Still doesn't make sense to me. Rounds 1 & 2 can be a crap shoot too. Quantity of picks doesn't equate to good drafting. And maybe the coaches and players do feel like they're 2-3 impact players away from making a difference. spkb25 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Argument against this? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger The Saints have been trading up and losing picks, but it really hasn't worked. Now they find themselves in a position where they need immediate help at several positions. With three picks in the first 44 they have the chance to fill a few of those needs with quality starters. If the Saints were one star player away from the Superbowl it would be different, but they are not. With 9 picks they are set up to make significant improvement with young players. Brees time is limited, the Saints can't afford to blow another draft. I understand your point, but that wasn't when we had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds

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