Saints 23, Tampa 20

dizzle88 · 04-23-2015, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

So what, if he was as good as those stats say then the CBs wouldn't had to cover as long as they had to during games last season

The reason they still had to cover even when Junior was getting there was all down to the lack of interior push from people like Akiem Hicks

Junior beat the tackles pretty consistently, but because Hicks was invisible all season the QB had tons of time and space to step up in the pocket.

saintsfan1976 · 04-23-2015, 07:43 AM

There was a myriad of inconsistencies with the defense last year.

I'd stop short of saying Jr should be traded away. He's obviously one of the top 5 rushers in the NFL.

foreverfan · 04-23-2015, 08:11 AM

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Danno · 04-23-2015, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The reason they still had to cover even when Junior was getting there was all down to the lack of interior push from people like Akiem Hicks

Junior beat the tackles pretty consistently, but because Hicks was invisible all season the QB had tons of time and space to step up in the pocket.

I don't know the final stats, but very late last season Junior was 2nd in the entire league in QB hurries behind JJ Watt.

I'd agree Hicks was the biggest disappointment along the D-line, followed by Jordan and Jenkins.

spkb25 · 04-23-2015, 08:47 AM

the whole line blew chunks. there was no rush, I remember just sitting there and watching as we got no push whatsoever. Wish I understood the coaches love affair with Cam because I don't. Outside of 13 what's the guy done? He's a **** bag. Now he will play lights out since it is a contract year and then after the big contract he'll go back to medium effort. Here is an idea, when he plays his ass off first few games of this year go ahead and trade him for a first rounder before we get nothing for **** bags, or run him into the ground this year and let him get his big contract during FA next year and **** the bed with that team

RaginCajun83 · 04-23-2015, 09:56 AM

What is Gallette's job? To rush the QB and get sacks, last I checked he rarely did either last year and was a headache this offseason. That's strike 3 in my book so I really don't care what "they" decide to do with him. If he's on the team next season then I'll cheer for him like I always have just I wouldn't get your hopes up that he's going to take the league by storm though

AsylumGuido · 04-23-2015, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

What is Gallette's job? To rush the QB and get sacks, last I checked he rarely did either last year and was a headache this offseason. That's strike 3 in my book so I really don't care what "they" decide to do with him. If he's on the team next season then I'll cheer for him like I always have just I wouldn't get your hopes up that he's going to take the league by storm though

I've got to agree with some of the others. What was Galette's job? To rush the QB. Sacks are a by-product of the rush that is dependent upon the secondary not constantly blowing coverage and the rest of the defensive line giving a modicum of pressure themselves. Did he do his job? I would say yes based upon being second place in the entire NFL in QB hurries which is a far better barometer of success by a pass rusher than sacks alone.

RaginCajun83 · 04-23-2015, 05:21 PM

we can all just agree to disagree on JG last season, I just didn't see what you guys did. Salary did not equal production that's for sure

Danno · 04-23-2015, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

we can all just agree to disagree on JG last season, I just didn't see what you guys did. Salary did not equal production that's for sure

But very few players production equaled their salary last year, including Colston, Evans, Graham, Hicks, Lewis, Jordan, Bunkley, Grubbs, KRobinson, PT, Watson, Lofton, Hawthorne, Bush, and even Brees.

Doesn't mean they're bad players.

I have a feeling Junior will have a freaking monster season in 2015.

RaginCajun83 · 04-23-2015, 06:35 PM

Brees was and will always be underpaid but anyways

04-23-2015, 04:26 AM	#41
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 So what, if he was as good as those stats say then the CBs wouldn't had to cover as long as they had to during games last season The reason they still had to cover even when Junior was getting there was all down to the lack of interior push from people like Akiem Hicks Junior beat the tackles pretty consistently, but because Hicks was invisible all season the QB had tons of time and space to step up in the pocket. Danno and nola_swammi like this.

04-23-2015, 07:43 AM	#42
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 There was a myriad of inconsistencies with the defense last year. I'd stop short of saying Jr should be traded away. He's obviously one of the top 5 rushers in the NFL.

04-23-2015, 08:11 AM	#43
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Do you think I'm only here for the cats??? Don't forget the women. 1. Saints 2. Women 3. What everybody else thinks. 4. Cats 5. Polls Danno and AsylumGuido like this.
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04-23-2015, 08:37 AM	#44
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by dizzle88 The reason they still had to cover even when Junior was getting there was all down to the lack of interior push from people like Akiem Hicks Junior beat the tackles pretty consistently, but because Hicks was invisible all season the QB had tons of time and space to step up in the pocket. I don't know the final stats, but very late last season Junior was 2nd in the entire league in QB hurries behind JJ Watt. I'd agree Hicks was the biggest disappointment along the D-line, followed by Jordan and Jenkins. AsylumGuido and dizzle88 like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 the whole line blew chunks. there was no rush, I remember just sitting there and watching as we got no push whatsoever. Wish I understood the coaches love affair with Cam because I don't. Outside of 13 what's the guy done? He's a ** bag. Now he will play lights out since it is a contract year and then after the big contract he'll go back to medium effort. Here is an idea, when he plays his ass off first few games of this year go ahead and trade him for a first rounder before we get nothing for bags, or run him into the ground this year and let him get his big contract during FA next year and ** the bed with that team
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04-23-2015, 09:56 AM	#46
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 What is Gallette's job? To rush the QB and get sacks, last I checked he rarely did either last year and was a headache this offseason. That's strike 3 in my book so I really don't care what "they" decide to do with him. If he's on the team next season then I'll cheer for him like I always have just I wouldn't get your hopes up that he's going to take the league by storm though

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 What is Gallette's job? To rush the QB and get sacks, last I checked he rarely did either last year and was a headache this offseason. That's strike 3 in my book so I really don't care what "they" decide to do with him. If he's on the team next season then I'll cheer for him like I always have just I wouldn't get your hopes up that he's going to take the league by storm though I've got to agree with some of the others. What was Galette's job? To rush the QB. Sacks are a by-product of the rush that is dependent upon the secondary not constantly blowing coverage and the rest of the defensive line giving a modicum of pressure themselves. Did he do his job? I would say yes based upon being second place in the entire NFL in QB hurries which is a far better barometer of success by a pass rusher than sacks alone. Danno, SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.

04-23-2015, 05:21 PM	#48
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 we can all just agree to disagree on JG last season, I just didn't see what you guys did. Salary did not equal production that's for sure

04-23-2015, 06:29 PM	#49
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 we can all just agree to disagree on JG last season, I just didn't see what you guys did. Salary did not equal production that's for sure But very few players production equaled their salary last year, including Colston, Evans, Graham, Hicks, Lewis, Jordan, Bunkley, Grubbs, KRobinson, PT, Watson, Lofton, Hawthorne, Bush, and even Brees. Doesn't mean they're bad players. I have a feeling Junior will have a freaking monster season in 2015.

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RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Brees was and will always be underpaid but anyways

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