Saints 23, Tampa 20

blackangold · 04-21-2015, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Those with quitting attitudes have been jettisoned from the Saints franchise.

Maybe we should adopt a new rule here.

Lol.

Football should be played like chess not checkers.

I for one am glad people don't always agree. If everyone agreed this would be a boring forum.

Winning tge game had no tangible effect on the team while losing would have. It also would have been a great time to try out sjb and powell.

saintsfan1976 · 04-22-2015, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Lol.

Football should be played like chess not checkers.

I for one am glad people don't always agree. If everyone agreed this would be a boring forum.

Winning tge game had no tangible effect on the team while losing would have. It also would have been a great time to try out sjb and powell.

It's not about forum harmony. Trust me, I enjoy debating. Do you think I'm only here for the cats???

I just don't like the "we should quit" mentality on any team.

Besides, how do you know Payton wasn't using that game to assess who should be cut/traded?

foreverfan · 04-23-2015, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Do you think I'm only here for the cats???

Don't forget the women.

1. Saints
2. Women
3. What everybody else thinks.
4. Cats
5. Polls

spkb25 · 04-21-2015, 06:03 PM

we only beat tampa because they laid down, that's what is worst about the entire thing. Tampa intentionally lost, had they not we wouldn't have won that game

SmashMouth · 04-21-2015, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

we only beat tampa because they laid down, that's what is worst about the entire thing. Tampa intentionally lost, had they not we wouldn't have won that game

A small detail most have forgotten...

spkb25 · 04-21-2015, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

A small detail most have forgotten...

Yeah, I think because it was so long ago people forget that they laid down in the second half. We all talked about how obvious it was back then.

nola_swammi · 04-21-2015, 06:22 PM

We might didn't lose by points but the saints lost that game. The Bucs didn't want to win that game, they pulled their starters in the second half and when it seems they were gonna still win they pulled their second string offensive lineman and put a player in with less than 5 game day experience which allowed Galette to get a safety.

If people on here say we should never lay down and lose, I'll say i will never would want to see us win a meaningless game like that.
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Beastmode · 04-21-2015, 09:47 PM

Maybe a TD or sack enables a veteran to hit an earmark or make the PB but it doesn't happen because they are benched for backups. I know teams bench starters if they are in the Playoffs but that is a much different situation. Just playing devil's advocate here, something to think about if you are a veteran on a bad team. I would not want to lose a big incentive over a draft pick. I would be quite upset about it and would want to be traded if I missed it knowing I could have likely achieved it in two benched quarters.

nola_swammi · 04-22-2015, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Maybe a TD or sack enables a veteran to hit an earmark or make the PB but it doesn't happen because they are benched for backups. I know teams bench starters if they are in the Playoffs but that is a much different situation. Just playing devil's advocate here, something to think about if you are a veteran on a bad team. I would not want to lose a big incentive over a draft pick. I would be quite upset about it and would want to be traded if I missed it knowing I could have likely achieved it in two benched quarters.

They can't say much with the losing that put them in that situation in the 1st place. How would it look if you complain for incentives when you have the worst win/lost in league

ScottF · 04-22-2015, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Maybe a TD or sack enables a veteran to hit an earmark or make the PB but it doesn't happen because they are benched for backups. I know teams bench starters if they are in the Playoffs but that is a much different situation. Just playing devil's advocate here, something to think about if you are a veteran on a bad team. I would not want to lose a big incentive over a draft pick. I would be quite upset about it and would want to be traded if I missed it knowing I could have likely achieved it in two benched quarters.

True, but what if you are Ryan Griffin, Stanley J-B, Powell, S.Jones, B. Coleman, etc? There will never be an opportunity to get game experience like this.
Lose the battle, win the war.

04-21-2015, 05:50 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Those with quitting attitudes have been jettisoned from the Saints franchise. Maybe we should adopt a new rule here. Lol. Football should be played like chess not checkers. I for one am glad people don't always agree. If everyone agreed this would be a boring forum. Winning tge game had no tangible effect on the team while losing would have. It also would have been a great time to try out sjb and powell.

04-22-2015, 07:57 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by blackangold Lol. Football should be played like chess not checkers. I for one am glad people don't always agree. If everyone agreed this would be a boring forum. Winning tge game had no tangible effect on the team while losing would have. It also would have been a great time to try out sjb and powell. It's not about forum harmony. Trust me, I enjoy debating. Do you think I'm only here for the cats??? I just don't like the "we should quit" mentality on any team. Besides, how do you know Payton wasn't using that game to assess who should be cut/traded?

04-23-2015, 07:11 AM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Do you think I'm only here for the cats??? Don't forget the women. 1. Saints 2. Women 3. What everybody else thinks. 4. Cats 5. Polls Danno and AsylumGuido like this.
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04-21-2015, 06:03 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 we only beat tampa because they laid down, that's what is worst about the entire thing. Tampa intentionally lost, had they not we wouldn't have won that game SmashMouth and brees84 like this.

04-21-2015, 06:05 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by spkb25 we only beat tampa because they laid down, that's what is worst about the entire thing. Tampa intentionally lost, had they not we wouldn't have won that game A small detail most have forgotten... spkb25 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by SmashMouth A small detail most have forgotten... Yeah, I think because it was so long ago people forget that they laid down in the second half. We all talked about how obvious it was back then. blackangold likes this.

04-21-2015, 06:22 PM	#7
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 We might didn't lose by points but the saints lost that game. The Bucs didn't want to win that game, they pulled their starters in the second half and when it seems they were gonna still win they pulled their second string offensive lineman and put a player in with less than 5 game day experience which allowed Galette to get a safety. If people on here say we should never lay down and lose, I'll say i will never would want to see us win a meaningless game like that. http://blackandgold.com/saints/70348...rs-23-a-2.html spkb25 and blackangold like this.

04-21-2015, 09:47 PM	#8
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Maybe a TD or sack enables a veteran to hit an earmark or make the PB but it doesn't happen because they are benched for backups. I know teams bench starters if they are in the Playoffs but that is a much different situation. Just playing devil's advocate here, something to think about if you are a veteran on a bad team. I would not want to lose a big incentive over a draft pick. I would be quite upset about it and would want to be traded if I missed it knowing I could have likely achieved it in two benched quarters.
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04-22-2015, 01:56 AM	#9
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by Beastmode Maybe a TD or sack enables a veteran to hit an earmark or make the PB but it doesn't happen because they are benched for backups. I know teams bench starters if they are in the Playoffs but that is a much different situation. Just playing devil's advocate here, something to think about if you are a veteran on a bad team. I would not want to lose a big incentive over a draft pick. I would be quite upset about it and would want to be traded if I missed it knowing I could have likely achieved it in two benched quarters. They can't say much with the losing that put them in that situation in the 1st place. How would it look if you complain for incentives when you have the worst win/lost in league

04-22-2015, 07:46 AM	#10
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints 23, Tampa 20 Originally Posted by Beastmode Maybe a TD or sack enables a veteran to hit an earmark or make the PB but it doesn't happen because they are benched for backups. I know teams bench starters if they are in the Playoffs but that is a much different situation. Just playing devil's advocate here, something to think about if you are a veteran on a bad team. I would not want to lose a big incentive over a draft pick. I would be quite upset about it and would want to be traded if I missed it knowing I could have likely achieved it in two benched quarters. True, but what if you are Ryan Griffin, Stanley J-B, Powell, S.Jones, B. Coleman, etc? There will never be an opportunity to get game experience like this. Lose the battle, win the war.

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