Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up?

chRxis · 02-19-2005, 09:03 PM

gumbo i whole heartedly agree that football is a team game and that all the individual parts should work in concert to produce the best results....when one part or more than one part does not do their job, then the team as a whole suffers, however i do believe that brooks could VASTLY improve his game... yes, he has the stats, but he does not have the consistency.... i know all about the o-line problems, but i\'ve been (as we all have) that brooks, even with great blocking, rarely puts the ball in a spot that is condusive to an easy catch, with his ball either sailing on him or reaching the receiver at their feet.... i\'m just saying i\'m really tired of hoping that this year will be the year for this kid, but i really think that the aaron brooks project should be aborted.... he showed tremendous promise in 2000, but turned up to be a disappointment as a team leader, which is very important considering the position he plays...

subguy · 02-19-2005, 09:06 PM

BC.....also, you comment on the fact that there aren\'t as many bad defense forums or any other than Brooks. One question, how can so many be so wrong and yet you be right. The number of Brooks posts is a tribute to the fact that he is the big concern. You are Brooks blind........i bet he was handed the 10 commandments, turned water into wine, fed the multitudes with 5 loaves and 2 fishes. Wrong......Mora said it best SUCK SUCK SUCK. Now go lay down and take a laxative.

chRxis · 02-19-2005, 09:08 PM

in the past, i was an avid brooks supporter, but his inconsistency and lack of motivation on the field has not only irritated me and fellow fans alike, but really shown me the character of a guy that most fans, including me from time to time, call \"leon\".... i\'m in the utmost favor of cutting ties with him due to the fact that we\'ve been told one thing about the kid, and he consistently fails to deliver wins.... you have to place some of the culpability on brooks himself, although i know that you will vehemently deny the fact that the other parts of the offense are equally to blame.... fact is, they aren\'t... with the exception of brooks, riley, gandy, and boo, the offense rarely plays uninspired....

GumboBC · 02-19-2005, 09:09 PM

BC.....also, you comment on the fact that there aren\'t as many bad defense forums or any other than Brooks. One question, how can so many be so wrong and yet you be right. The number of Brooks posts is a tribute to the fact that he is the big concern. You are Brooks blind........i bet he was handed the 10 commandments, turned water into wine, fed the multitudes with 5 loaves and 2 fishes. Wrong......Mora said it best SUCK SUCK SUCK. Now go lay down and take a laxative.

Thanks for pointing that out... What???

saintswhodi · 02-19-2005, 09:09 PM

subguy

chRxis · 02-19-2005, 09:20 PM

i commend gumbo for being a steadfast supporter of brooks... there is nothing wrong with that.... my only objection, and don\'t go taking this personal gumbo, is that brooks is almost allowed to go blameless due to his \"stats\".... what does not measure up is that fact that he is not the leader that we need at that position, evident by the fact that he does not know the playbook all that well, plays with no incentive whatsoever, and his win loss record will attest to that... that can\'t be debated.... you can bring up the stats, and it sounds great, but at the end of the day, for all of his stats, he has never (and probably will never) led HIS team to the playoffs.... and make no mistake about it, the team does belong to the qb, let\'s not kid ourselves....

JOESAM2002 · 02-19-2005, 09:54 PM

What I\'m suggesting is..... that until AB learns to walk on water, he needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. Let he who is without sin...... you know the rest. Right now he is no better than average. Yes he has potential, just as almost all the rest of the team does but you don\'t hear anyone else blowing their own horn do you? The only one that does has been to the Pro Bowl quite often lately. There\'s no doubt that AB has talent as I\'ve said but this guy is just to immature. He\'s had time to grow up but he just hasn\'t. He needs to learn to lead by example and not say a word. My Dad always told me\"Never tell anyone what you can do, go out and show them.\" I have lived by that rule all my life. It\'s the quiet ones you have to watch.

P.S. And yes Billy Boy I do know what positions there are on a football team. I played for a few years myself. So save the condescending remarks for someone else. I\'M NOT IMPRESSED.

GumboBC · 02-19-2005, 10:03 PM

P.S. And yes Billy Boy I do know what positions there are on a football team. I played for a few years myself. So save the condescending remarks for someone else. I\'M NOT IMPRESSED.

Geeez... Lighten up JoeSam. I was only joking with you.

You asked my why AB can\'t sustain a drive on his own. I\'m sure you new that was a pretty outrageous statement before you made it.

If you had a beef with AB saying he was a great QB, then why not just come out and say it instead of beating around the bush. I wish AB wouldn\'t get frustrated and say some things that he said.

But, like you say... Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-19-2005, 10:11 PM

I just have to ask this question. If AB is as great as he says he is, why is it that our offense cannot maintain a sustained drive to keep our porous defense off the field? Does this mean it\'s the other 10 players fault?

No. That\'s Brooks fault. Because Brooks isn\'t as great as he says he is. And Brooks is compounding the problem by running his yap.

On lack of sustained drives everyone gets some of the blame. Brooks primary contributions to the problem are not taking off when nothing is open downfield and trying to force balls in when he could take what the defense gives.

McCarthy and his playcalling and formation, the line ineffective blocking, receiver drops, and penalties, penalties, and penalties all contributed too.

But Brooks certainly isn\'t as good as he spouts off.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-19-2005, 10:15 PM

I\'m starting to wonder what I think about tihs whole \"teams with worse defenses made the playoffs\" thing.

First, they barely made the playoffs and their record was the same as ours (or only slightly better).

Second, how many of those teams with terrible defenses played in the Super Bowl. Um, none. Do we just want to make the playoffs or do we want to make a team that can win the SB?

Maybe I\'m off base here, but I was just thinking about it.

Off base?
OFF BASE?
OFF BASE!!!??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!

Someone has it as their tag line: Defense wins Championships.

You are right on target.

SFIAH

02-19-2005, 09:03 PM	#31
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? gumbo i whole heartedly agree that football is a team game and that all the individual parts should work in concert to produce the best results....when one part or more than one part does not do their job, then the team as a whole suffers, however i do believe that brooks could VASTLY improve his game... yes, he has the stats, but he does not have the consistency.... i know all about the o-line problems, but i\'ve been (as we all have) that brooks, even with great blocking, rarely puts the ball in a spot that is condusive to an easy catch, with his ball either sailing on him or reaching the receiver at their feet.... i\'m just saying i\'m really tired of hoping that this year will be the year for this kid, but i really think that the aaron brooks project should be aborted.... he showed tremendous promise in 2000, but turned up to be a disappointment as a team leader, which is very important considering the position he plays...

02-19-2005, 09:06 PM	#32
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,096	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? BC.....also, you comment on the fact that there aren\'t as many bad defense forums or any other than Brooks. One question, how can so many be so wrong and yet you be right. The number of Brooks posts is a tribute to the fact that he is the big concern. You are Brooks blind........i bet he was handed the 10 commandments, turned water into wine, fed the multitudes with 5 loaves and 2 fishes. Wrong......Mora said it best SUCK SUCK SUCK. Now go lay down and take a laxative.

02-19-2005, 09:08 PM	#33
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? in the past, i was an avid brooks supporter, but his inconsistency and lack of motivation on the field has not only irritated me and fellow fans alike, but really shown me the character of a guy that most fans, including me from time to time, call \"leon\".... i\'m in the utmost favor of cutting ties with him due to the fact that we\'ve been told one thing about the kid, and he consistently fails to deliver wins.... you have to place some of the culpability on brooks himself, although i know that you will vehemently deny the fact that the other parts of the offense are equally to blame.... fact is, they aren\'t... with the exception of brooks, riley, gandy, and boo, the offense rarely plays uninspired....

02-19-2005, 09:09 PM	#34
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? BC.....also, you comment on the fact that there aren\'t as many bad defense forums or any other than Brooks. One question, how can so many be so wrong and yet you be right. The number of Brooks posts is a tribute to the fact that he is the big concern. You are Brooks blind........i bet he was handed the 10 commandments, turned water into wine, fed the multitudes with 5 loaves and 2 fishes. Wrong......Mora said it best SUCK SUCK SUCK. Now go lay down and take a laxative. Thanks for pointing that out... What???
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02-19-2005, 09:20 PM	#36
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? i commend gumbo for being a steadfast supporter of brooks... there is nothing wrong with that.... my only objection, and don\'t go taking this personal gumbo, is that brooks is almost allowed to go blameless due to his \"stats\".... what does not measure up is that fact that he is not the leader that we need at that position, evident by the fact that he does not know the playbook all that well, plays with no incentive whatsoever, and his win loss record will attest to that... that can\'t be debated.... you can bring up the stats, and it sounds great, but at the end of the day, for all of his stats, he has never (and probably will never) led HIS team to the playoffs.... and make no mistake about it, the team does belong to the qb, let\'s not kid ourselves....

02-19-2005, 09:54 PM	#37
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? What I\'m suggesting is..... that until AB learns to walk on water, he needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. Let he who is without sin...... you know the rest. Right now he is no better than average. Yes he has potential, just as almost all the rest of the team does but you don\'t hear anyone else blowing their own horn do you? The only one that does has been to the Pro Bowl quite often lately. There\'s no doubt that AB has talent as I\'ve said but this guy is just to immature. He\'s had time to grow up but he just hasn\'t. He needs to learn to lead by example and not say a word. My Dad always told me\"Never tell anyone what you can do, go out and show them.\" I have lived by that rule all my life. It\'s the quiet ones you have to watch. P.S. And yes Billy Boy I do know what positions there are on a football team. I played for a few years myself. So save the condescending remarks for someone else. I\'M NOT IMPRESSED.
	Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!! "Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.

02-19-2005, 10:03 PM	#38
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? P.S. And yes Billy Boy I do know what positions there are on a football team. I played for a few years myself. So save the condescending remarks for someone else. I\'M NOT IMPRESSED. Geeez... Lighten up JoeSam. I was only joking with you. You asked my why AB can\'t sustain a drive on his own. I\'m sure you new that was a pretty outrageous statement before you made it. If you had a beef with AB saying he was a great QB, then why not just come out and say it instead of beating around the bush. I wish AB wouldn\'t get frustrated and say some things that he said. But, like you say... Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
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02-19-2005, 10:11 PM	#39
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? I just have to ask this question. If AB is as great as he says he is, why is it that our offense cannot maintain a sustained drive to keep our porous defense off the field? Does this mean it\'s the other 10 players fault? No. That\'s Brooks fault. Because Brooks isn\'t as great as he says he is. And Brooks is compounding the problem by running his yap. On lack of sustained drives everyone gets some of the blame. Brooks primary contributions to the problem are not taking off when nothing is open downfield and trying to force balls in when he could take what the defense gives. McCarthy and his playcalling and formation, the line ineffective blocking, receiver drops, and penalties, penalties, and penalties all contributed too. But Brooks certainly isn\'t as good as he spouts off. SFIAH

02-19-2005, 10:15 PM	#40
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Brooks turnovers. How does he stack up? I\'m starting to wonder what I think about tihs whole \"teams with worse defenses made the playoffs\" thing. First, they barely made the playoffs and their record was the same as ours (or only slightly better). Second, how many of those teams with terrible defenses played in the Super Bowl. Um, none. Do we just want to make the playoffs or do we want to make a team that can win the SB? Maybe I\'m off base here, but I was just thinking about it. Off base? OFF BASE? OFF BASE!!!??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! Someone has it as their tag line: Defense wins Championships. You are right on target. SFIAH