Fire Sean Payton

WillSaints81 · 11-29-2015, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Are you aiming for the silver lining award? Believe it or not, we scored none.

I was on gamecast two straight possessions Brees was dicing his way to the redzone, one was a int the other was a failed 4th down conversion.

Remember when it was said after this game in preseason that not having Grham could hurt us in the redzone? Well we faced that exact situation we faced in preseason.

blackangold · 11-29-2015, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I was on gamecast two straight possessions Brees was dicing his way to the redzone, one was a int the other was a failed 4th down conversion.

Remember when it was said after this game in preseason that not having Grham could hurt us in the redzone? Well we faced that exact situation we faced in preseason.

Lol dicing his way...

Clearly you didn't actually watch the game, game cast doesn't count. Easily the worst offensive performance of the year and Brees looked awful along with bad play calling.

burningmetal · 11-29-2015, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I was on gamecast two straight possessions Brees was dicing his way to the redzone, one was a int the other was a failed 4th down conversion.

Remember when it was said after this game in preseason that not having Grham could hurt us in the redzone? Well we faced that exact situation we faced in preseason.

Well I was watching the same game as you, on tv. And what you just said has nothing to do with your previous post. Who cares that we COULD have scored two touchdowns? As for Graham... C'mon dude. Are you really still on that? What's he doing for Seattle? Do you remember us scoring 52 points in a game this year? All that "redzone target" stuff is a myth. If you call the right plays you can get guys open. There's no imagination, as I said, and such has been the case for a while now. This offense pretty much put up the SAME numbers last year, WITH Graham. Stop trying to make Jimmy's absence an excuse.

WillSaints81 · 11-29-2015, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Well I was watching the same game as you, on tv. And what you just said has nothing to do with your previous post. Who cares that we COULD have scored two touchdowns? As for Graham... C'mon dude. Are you really still on that? What's he doing for Seattle? Do you remember us scoring 52 points in a game this year? All that "redzone target" stuff is a myth. If you call the right plays you can get guys open. There's no imagination, as I said, and such has been the case for a while now. This offense pretty much put up the SAME numbers last year, WITH Graham. Stop trying to make Jimmy's absence an excuse.

I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.

burningmetal · 11-29-2015, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.

Whether you think it's Graham specifically or a big target in general, the point remains the same. You're overlooking the real problem. Ben Watson has taken over as the "big target" and he's been productive, for the most part. The real problem (aside from the obvious offensive line issues) is that Sean isn't fooling anyone with his play design anymore. We were predictable the last couple years from constantly forcing the ball to Jimmy, and now we just send everybody deep, or everyone short.

You don't see any diversity in the routes. Where are the Rub routes, quick screens (not the one's where Drew has to throw the ball 20 yards across the field, and it takes an eternity just to get there), out-routes that are BEYOND the marker, and not these little 3 yard, piece of crap plays?

All that, and Drew continues to make some awful decisions.

11-29-2015, 06:33 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by burningmetal Are you aiming for the silver lining award? Believe it or not, we scored none. I was on gamecast two straight possessions Brees was dicing his way to the redzone, one was a int the other was a failed 4th down conversion. Remember when it was said after this game in preseason that not having Grham could hurt us in the redzone? Well we faced that exact situation we faced in preseason.

11-29-2015, 06:48 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I was on gamecast two straight possessions Brees was dicing his way to the redzone, one was a int the other was a failed 4th down conversion. Remember when it was said after this game in preseason that not having Grham could hurt us in the redzone? Well we faced that exact situation we faced in preseason. Lol dicing his way... Clearly you didn't actually watch the game, game cast doesn't count. Easily the worst offensive performance of the year and Brees looked awful along with bad play calling. leilung and pherein like this.

11-29-2015, 06:52 PM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I was on gamecast two straight possessions Brees was dicing his way to the redzone, one was a int the other was a failed 4th down conversion. Remember when it was said after this game in preseason that not having Grham could hurt us in the redzone? Well we faced that exact situation we faced in preseason. Well I was watching the same game as you, on tv. And what you just said has nothing to do with your previous post. Who cares that we COULD have scored two touchdowns? As for Graham... C'mon dude. Are you really still on that? What's he doing for Seattle? Do you remember us scoring 52 points in a game this year? All that "redzone target" stuff is a myth. If you call the right plays you can get guys open. There's no imagination, as I said, and such has been the case for a while now. This offense pretty much put up the SAME numbers last year, WITH Graham. Stop trying to make Jimmy's absence an excuse. leilung, pherein and CharityMike like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-29-2015, 08:37 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by burningmetal Well I was watching the same game as you, on tv. And what you just said has nothing to do with your previous post. Who cares that we COULD have scored two touchdowns? As for Graham... C'mon dude. Are you really still on that? What's he doing for Seattle? Do you remember us scoring 52 points in a game this year? All that "redzone target" stuff is a myth. If you call the right plays you can get guys open. There's no imagination, as I said, and such has been the case for a while now. This offense pretty much put up the SAME numbers last year, WITH Graham. Stop trying to make Jimmy's absence an excuse. I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.

11-29-2015, 08:54 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this. Whether you think it's Graham specifically or a big target in general, the point remains the same. You're overlooking the real problem. Ben Watson has taken over as the "big target" and he's been productive, for the most part. The real problem (aside from the obvious offensive line issues) is that Sean isn't fooling anyone with his play design anymore. We were predictable the last couple years from constantly forcing the ball to Jimmy, and now we just send everybody deep, or everyone short. You don't see any diversity in the routes. Where are the Rub routes, quick screens (not the one's where Drew has to throw the ball 20 yards across the field, and it takes an eternity just to get there), out-routes that are BEYOND the marker, and not these little 3 yard, piece of crap plays? All that, and Drew continues to make some awful decisions.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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