ChrisXVI

One problem pherein... Payton hasn't been one of the best coaches in the league in years. It's not overreacting.

pherein

Really ? so 2 seasons = bust ? are your serious ? Giants SB, cowboys, and now Saints with a SB and paytons bust ?
You serious or have you head up something.
If SP gets the Falcons job he will kick our ass all day, and you know that.

burningmetal

This is something I can't agree with you on, man. First I didn't see anyone use the word bust. Bust is a term for someone that never lived up to expectations. Payton was an elite coach once. I don't know if he ever will be again, but he isn't currently. And this goes back further than two years.

We haven't been a true contender since 2011. We had the bad year without Payton in 2012, then in '13 we made it back to the playoffs, but that was mainly due to the fact that we had one of those rare years where the defense actually showed up. The offense was ok, but not elite. We couldn't move the ball against top defenses, and that meant we couldn't compete in the playoffs with the likes of Seattle.

Remember back in the day when we never felt we were out of a game? Going back to that '11 season, we had this amazing offense all year, then when we faced the 49ers in the playoffs, we came out and did everything wrong. Fell behind 17-0 against a defense who was thought to be impenetrable, we had 5 freaking turnovers and a horrible defense. It looked like we were going to lose by 40 points. Yet we came all the way back to take the lead, only to have ol' Gregg and his boys blow it.

Those days have been gone since then. When we fall behind to any kind of a decent team (sometimes bad teams, too), we just clam up and get beat down. These last two years have been bad on all parts.

Sean, Mickey and all those guys have to change what they are doing. I agreed with the firing of Rob Ryan, though I knew full well it wasn't going to change anything this year. But Payton commented on it, saying "we can't continue with status quo", I believe were his words. Well... He needs to take his own advice. Status quo = stale and cold.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

Beastmode

Both sides are anemic. Been that way for a while. I'm fine with moving on because this is going nowhere.

ChrisXVI

That's pretty much how I'm feeling. How many defensive coordinators do we have to go through? Compound that with the fact that our offense is inconsistent and reaching new lows on their bad days and it's clearly time to stop with the complacent coaching.

nola_swammi

1. Demote Loomis to bean counter
2. Rip up contract for training camp at greenbrier
3. Every defensive coach fired
4. Trade Spiller and Browner
5. Cut Colston, Strief, Lelito, Hawthorne and Jenkins
6. Draft OG, DT, LB, WR and DE
7. Free agent OG, LB,

jnormand

I understand all the emotional craziness right now. But I'm not going to freak out. So the year is tanked. But I have high hopes for next year.

WillSaints81

It won't be easy
Road games
@KC
@SD(better hope Rivers is gone)
@Ari(better hope Palmer gets his sb)
@SF(if they still suck)
@Dal(this will be a loss)

Home games
Den(no Manning but that defense)
Oakland(a rising qb)
Sea
StL
Det

Call that easy next year? We better go five-one in the division.

RailBoss

The Defense wasn't going to change overnight, that I kind of figured.
The O-Line got absolutely owned today Drew was on his heels running for his life. JJ Watts was like a Fox in a Hen House he pretty much tore it up.
Not seeing a Field General on Defense like Vilma used to do. I will admit the light that used to be in SP's eyes is fading to Black.

QBREES9

Be careful what you wish for. The grass isn't always greener.