2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

[jeanpierre]

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG John Theus, Georgia; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 305 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) DE Jihad Ward, Illinois; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

[WhoDatFan26]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG John Theus, Georgia; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 305 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) DE Jihad Ward, Illinois; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

The Saints don't need to stock up on Offense. We need defense. Even Coach Payton knows this. We can't keep thinking an undrafted free agent DE can provide pressure. That draft list is not going to happen.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

The Saints don't need to stock up on Offense. We need defense. Even Coach Payton knows this. We can't keep thinking an undrafted free agent DE can provide pressure. That draft list is not going to happen.

So you're going to roll out Jahri Evans and Tim Lelito again to protect your 20 million dollar quarterback?!?

We must get younger and affordable guards...

Marques Colston is one of my second-all-time Saint to Archie Manning, but his body is giving out on him...

Who's going to be the No. 1?!? Cooks?!? Great talent, Great Attitude, but he's too small to body up and keep the chains moving...

It's still early, but to argue that "x" receiver and offensive guards are not priority needs is bewildering...

[WhoDatFan26]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So you're going to roll out Jahri Evans and Tim Lelito again to protect your 20 million dollar quarterback?!?

We must get younger and affordable guards...

Marques Colston is one of my second-all-time Saint to Archie Manning, but his body is giving out on him...

Who's going to be the No. 1?!? Cooks?!? Great talent, Great Attitude, but he's too small to body up and keep the chains moving...

It's still early, but to argue that "x" receiver and offensive guards are not priority needs is bewildering...

I got news for you Lelito will probably be starting again. As far as Jahari, his problems are in pass protection not run blocking. we will draft another Guard but we drafted Evans in the 5th Round so we can find a Guard later. We still need to be able to rush the passer.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

I got news for you Lelito will probably be starting again. As far as Jahari, his problems are in pass protection not run blocking. we will draft another Guard but we drafted Evans in the 5th Round so we can find a Guard later. We still need to be able to rush the passer.

And you can always find a 1000 recyd X-receiver in the 7th round...

Again, you really want to protect an aged quarterback with that salary cap committment with Evans and Lelito...

You can get by with a high-effort Lelito, but not both...

[WhoDatFan26]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And you can always find a 1000 recyd X-receiver in the 7th round...

Again, you really want to protect an aged quarterback with that salary cap committment with Evans and Lelito...

You can get by with a high-effort Lelito, but not both...

I agree that a Guard needs to be drafted but not before a DE or LB. The Offense for all its early season struggles was still top 5 in The League. The defense was 31st. Case closed.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

I agree that a Guard needs to be drafted but not before a DE or LB. The Offense for all its early season struggles was still top 5 in The League. The defense was 31st. Case closed.

Not so fast my friend...

There's more to it than passing up and down the field...you've got to score...

Marques Colston, my favorite active Saints, has not been Colston for the past two years (I've opined age<arthritis); and then there's that other kid who's on Seattle milk cartons...

If you want to look at the statistics, then let's do that...

We're tied with Seattle at eighth in points per game; still among the top nine, but that also includes an anomaly with the Giants game in the dome, drop that game, we're barely middle of the pack...

Source: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

Then there's time of possession, still good, but only seventh, and if we'd had 2:00 (two minutes) less in total possession, we'd fallen out of the top twelve in avg time of possession...

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...sion-net-of-ot

Now we were first in 3rd down conversions, we were fortunate that there were many third and shorts; this is where sending Cooks downfield and Snead or Hill underneath worked in the passing game and Mark Ingram's improved play; but not in 3rd in long where Colston, a big x-receiver that can body up and convert is missed...

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

But now we get to the real problem, the red zone...

Despite moving up and down the field, we were only ninth (9th) in red zone TD scoring...

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...ne-scoring-pct

And when teams held us to a field goal, even when we made 'em, we lost games...

And Drew was actually behind the team in the red zone; missing that big go-to receiver...

2015 Red Zone Passing Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

So despite being no. 2 in total offense, which is tempered by a +2 turnover margin...We lacked that scoring threat...

That is why I make the case that Drew's better days were tied to a true threat at the x-receiver (Colston) and could be rejuvenated (Treadwell) and giving him pocket protection that he once had (All-Pro Evans and Nicks) by improving what he had at guard (Old, Broke-down Evans and Improving Lelito)...

By drafting these positions, you can score putting pressure on the opposition and making 'em one-dimensioal...

And the purpose of the safeties is to address the allowance of the big downfield plays that Byrd and Vaccaro have been incapable of snuffing out...

With regards to the pass rush, I've b*tched as much as anybody here about it being neglected; but there's new linebacking coaches, new linebackers and new defensive linemen; Hell, we had five rookie starters on defense at one point and we finally picked a defensive coordinator, let's let that begin to work and not paint it as dire as last offseason...

[jeanpierre]

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

Alternate: LB Leonard Floyd, Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 232 lbs.


R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

Alternate: C Ryan Kelly, Alabama; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 297 lbs.


R3, S15 (Pick 79) LB Jordan Jenkins, Georgia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 253 lbs.

Alternate: C Max Tuerk, USC; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs.


R4, S14 (Pick 110*) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 240 lbs.

Alternate: OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs.


R5, S13 (Pick 141*) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

Alternate: QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 220 lbs.


R6, S12 (Pick 172*) Traded with 2015 R6 pick for R5 selection of Damian Swann


R7, S16 (Pick 208*) P Drew Kaser, Texas A & M; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 215 lbs.

Alternate: TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

[jeanpierre]

Still early, but these are guys I'm looking for if they're there when we pick...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 218 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) LB Nick Kwiatkoski, West Virginia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 236 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...