Saints 2016 Coaching Staff

jeanpierre · 12-13-2016, 06:29 PM

Wouldn't it be a great story if Benson invited Jeff Fisher in for a cup of gumbo and let him watch practice?

jeanpierre · 12-15-2016, 01:49 PM

Grading the Coaches:

Head Coach Sean Payton - C

Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmichael - A-

Asst HC/Tight Ends Dan Campbell - C

Offensive Line Dan Roushar - A

Quarterbacks Joe Lombardi - A

Running Backs Joel Thomas - C-

Wide Receivers John Morton - B

Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen - B

Asst Def Coach Peter Giunta - A

Defensive Backs Aaron Glenn - A

Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C

Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D

Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C

Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F

K Major · 12-15-2016, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Grading the Coaches:

Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D

Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C

Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F

Saints FO should be passing out pink slips to the above referenced coaches upon completion of the season. These areas are a direct result of the disappointing 2016 campaign.

2017 or bust ... all hands on deck.

halloween 65 · 12-15-2016, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Grading the Coaches:

Head Coach Sean Payton - C

Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmichael - A-

Asst HC/Tight Ends Dan Campbell - C

Offensive Line Dan Roushar - A

Quarterbacks Joe Lombardi - A

Running Backs Joel Thomas - C-

Wide Receivers John Morton - B

Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen - B

Asst Def Coach Peter Giunta - A

Defensive Backs Aaron Glenn - A

Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C

Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D

Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C

Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F

Are these your grades or did they come from elsewhere?

jeanpierre · 12-15-2016, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Are these your grades or did they come from elsewhere?

Mine

Utah_Saint · 12-15-2016, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Grading the Coaches:

Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C

I think you're dead on with the grades but I wouldn't have been as generous to Bill Johnson.

I think the improvement in the D-line this season has been more about personnel than it has coaching. My idea of a good coach is someone that makes the whole greater than the sum of it's parts. A couple times this season I've thought one unit or another played above there heads; The secondary considering the injuries, The O-line, considering the shambles they were in preseason, the wide outs, considering their inexperience... I don't think I've ever thought that once about the D-line going all the way back to when Johnson joined the Saints.

44Champs · 01-02-2017, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Grading the Coaches:

Head Coach Sean Payton - C

Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmichael - A-

Asst HC/Tight Ends Dan Campbell - C

Offensive Line Dan Roushar - A

Quarterbacks Joe Lombardi - A

Running Backs Joel Thomas - C-

Wide Receivers John Morton - B

Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen - B

Asst Def Coach Peter Giunta - A

Defensive Backs Aaron Glenn - A

Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C

Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D

Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C

Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F

I pretty much agree w all of this except I would give running backs a B

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jeanpierre · 01-02-2017, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

I pretty much agree w all of this except I would give running backs a B

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Yeah, 44, gotta agree with you in that Ingram/Hightower really got things in gear after I posted that grade.

Still, disappointed they couldn't get Murphy on the field nor get Spiller to get his game in gear...

Crusader · 01-03-2017, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yeah, 44, gotta agree with you in that they did really get things in gear after I posted that grade.

Yeah. Look at Ingram, first 1000yd season and a 5.1 ypc average.

jeanpierre · 01-03-2017, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Yeah. Look at Ingram, first 1000yd season and a 5.1 ypc average.

All I can say is that it's about d*mn time for the first and second round pick...

He definitely was worth the FA money, but was an awful draft pick for Payton/Loomis...

12-13-2016, 06:29 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Wouldn't it be a great story if Benson invited Jeff Fisher in for a cup of gumbo and let him watch practice? Twitter halloween 65 likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Grading the Coaches: Head Coach Sean Payton - C Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmichael - A- Asst HC/Tight Ends Dan Campbell - C Offensive Line Dan Roushar - A Quarterbacks Joe Lombardi - A Running Backs Joel Thomas - C- Wide Receivers John Morton - B Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen - B Asst Def Coach Peter Giunta - A Defensive Backs Aaron Glenn - A Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F Rugby Saint II and Utah_Saint like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Grading the Coaches: Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F Saints FO should be passing out pink slips to the above referenced coaches upon completion of the season. These areas are a direct result of the disappointing 2016 campaign. 2017 or bust ... all hands on deck.

12-15-2016, 04:17 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Grading the Coaches: Head Coach Sean Payton - C Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmichael - A- Asst HC/Tight Ends Dan Campbell - C Offensive Line Dan Roushar - A Quarterbacks Joe Lombardi - A Running Backs Joel Thomas - C- Wide Receivers John Morton - B Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen - B Asst Def Coach Peter Giunta - A Defensive Backs Aaron Glenn - A Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F Are these your grades or did they come from elsewhere?

12-15-2016, 07:09 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by halloween 65 Are these your grades or did they come from elsewhere? Mine Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-15-2016, 05:00 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Grading the Coaches: Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C I think you're dead on with the grades but I wouldn't have been as generous to Bill Johnson. I think the improvement in the D-line this season has been more about personnel than it has coaching. My idea of a good coach is someone that makes the whole greater than the sum of it's parts. A couple times this season I've thought one unit or another played above there heads; The secondary considering the injuries, The O-line, considering the shambles they were in preseason, the wide outs, considering their inexperience... I don't think I've ever thought that once about the D-line going all the way back to when Johnson joined the Saints.

01-02-2017, 05:55 PM	#7
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Grading the Coaches: Head Coach Sean Payton - C Offensive Coordinator Pete Carmichael - A- Asst HC/Tight Ends Dan Campbell - C Offensive Line Dan Roushar - A Quarterbacks Joe Lombardi - A Running Backs Joel Thomas - C- Wide Receivers John Morton - B Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen - B Asst Def Coach Peter Giunta - A Defensive Backs Aaron Glenn - A Defensive Line Bill Johnson - C Linebackers Joe Vitt/James Willis - D Pass Rush Specialist Brian Young - C Special Teams Greg McMahon/Stan Kwan - F I pretty much agree w all of this except I would give running backs a B Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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01-02-2017, 09:10 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by 44Champs I pretty much agree w all of this except I would give running backs a B Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Yeah, 44, gotta agree with you in that Ingram/Hightower really got things in gear after I posted that grade. Still, disappointed they couldn't get Murphy on the field nor get Spiller to get his game in gear...
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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,033	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yeah, 44, gotta agree with you in that they did really get things in gear after I posted that grade. Yeah. Look at Ingram, first 1000yd season and a 5.1 ypc average.

01-03-2017, 06:10 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by Crusader Yeah. Look at Ingram, first 1000yd season and a 5.1 ypc average. All I can say is that it's about d*mn time for the first and second round pick... He definitely was worth the FA money, but was an awful draft pick for Payton/Loomis...

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