Trade Down at 12?

NonieT · 02-26-2016, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

No you stay at 12 and draft Jaylen Smith LB Norte Dame

Who is probably going to be red-shirted this season? No thanks. There are plenty of good LB in this draft. Cravens for example and we can probably get him in the 2nd round.

RaginCajun83 · 02-28-2016, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Who is probably going to be red-shirted this season? No thanks. There are plenty of good LB in this draft. Cravens for example and we can probably get him in the 2nd round.

a guresome injury didn't stop Willis McGahee from being picked in the first. Look when it comes to Smith, he's the top LB in the draft and I've heard he compares to Patrick Willis and Luke Kechley BUT yeah let's pass on him because he will miss one season. I'd take one season on IR for 10-15 years of watching a dominate player on defense

WhoDatFan26 · 03-03-2016, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

No you stay at 12 and draft Jaylen Smith LB Norte Dame

I love the kid, but nerve damage isn't something to chance. Especially when we need to make a definitive splash in the first round.

K Major · 03-03-2016, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

I love the kid, but nerve damage isn't something to chance. Especially when we need to make a definitive splash in the first round.

Some analyst have JS dropping out of the 2nd rd, possibly early 3rd (similar to RB Marcus Lattimore).

Frankly I can't see it but if he can heal back to 100%, he is going to improve someones defense, quick, fast and in a hurry.

WhoDatFan26 · 03-03-2016, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Some analyst have JS dropping out of the 2nd rd, possibly early 3rd (similar to RB Marcus Lattimore).

Frankly I can't see it but if he can heal back to 100%, he is going to improve someones defense, quick, fast and in a hurry.

If he drops out of the First Round the by all means take a chance on him. But if he's there at #12, then you have to pass.

Danno · 03-03-2016, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

If he drops out of the First Round the by all means take a chance on him. But if he's there at #12, then you have to pass.

Normally I agree. But we're in a 2 or 3 year window with Brees so I have no problem passing on a project for a more NFL ready prospect.

I'm all about drafting for 2 or 3 years down the road, but the whole nerve damage thing is inordinately risky. If we had some extra picks, and were already stocked with talent on defense then sure, I'd crawl over broken glass to pick him n the 2nd.

I just don't think its wise with our current situation. We have a lot of young players on defense that may develop very nicely. Do you give up on them to draft a risky feast or famine player?

RaginCajun83 · 02-16-2016, 02:03 PM

Saints haven't had speed at Linebacker since Vilma left. Smith would be 3/4 of Dome Patrol V 2.0, it looks like they are trying to put together now

hagan714 · 02-19-2016, 02:11 AM

I may question the overall talent level in top ten and some of the hype for a few in the top twenty.

But from that point on it has a nice slow decline all the way through day two. I really like this draft all the way through the 4th.

Day three has more than a few really interesting risk picks.

I am still a strong believer to build a team you gotta get player that stick on the club in day 2. That is how the Pats always seem to have little cap issues. mid round picks that step up and play when players are lost to FA because they want more than the wants to pay the bench is deep enough to absorb the lose.

jeanpierre · 02-26-2016, 05:16 PM

Have some pre-negotitated trades on Ready 5 so as to move back and pick up a R2 or R3 pick and select a big defensive end/tackle like Jarran Reed later in the first...

But wouldn't pull the trigger right away as a Top 5 talent almost always falls...

Danno · 02-26-2016, 06:22 PM

Can anyone guess the last time we traded down with our 1st round pick?

Hint... Rhymes with Nero!

View Poll Results: Trade Down
Philadelphia Eagles R1-13 and R4-110	1	2.86%
La Rams R1-15 and R3-76	6	17.14%
Houston Texans R1-22, R2-52, R4-116	10	28.57%
Recievng end of a Ditka for Drew	2	5.71%
Stay put at 12	16	45.71%
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02-26-2016, 05:54 PM	#1
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 No you stay at 12 and draft Jaylen Smith LB Norte Dame Who is probably going to be red-shirted this season? No thanks. There are plenty of good LB in this draft. Cravens for example and we can probably get him in the 2nd round. WhoDatFan26 likes this.
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02-28-2016, 09:00 PM	#2
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by NonieT Who is probably going to be red-shirted this season? No thanks. There are plenty of good LB in this draft. Cravens for example and we can probably get him in the 2nd round. a guresome injury didn't stop Willis McGahee from being picked in the first. Look when it comes to Smith, he's the top LB in the draft and I've heard he compares to Patrick Willis and Luke Kechley BUT yeah let's pass on him because he will miss one season. I'd take one season on IR for 10-15 years of watching a dominate player on defense

03-03-2016, 03:52 PM	#3
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 No you stay at 12 and draft Jaylen Smith LB Norte Dame I love the kid, but nerve damage isn't something to chance. Especially when we need to make a definitive splash in the first round.
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03-03-2016, 04:35 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 I love the kid, but nerve damage isn't something to chance. Especially when we need to make a definitive splash in the first round. Some analyst have JS dropping out of the 2nd rd, possibly early 3rd (similar to RB Marcus Lattimore). Frankly I can't see it but if he can heal back to 100%, he is going to improve someones defense, quick, fast and in a hurry.

03-03-2016, 05:40 PM	#5
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by K Major Some analyst have JS dropping out of the 2nd rd, possibly early 3rd (similar to RB Marcus Lattimore). Frankly I can't see it but if he can heal back to 100%, he is going to improve someones defense, quick, fast and in a hurry. If he drops out of the First Round the by all means take a chance on him. But if he's there at #12, then you have to pass. MarchingOn likes this.
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03-03-2016, 06:38 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Trade Down at 12? Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 If he drops out of the First Round the by all means take a chance on him. But if he's there at #12, then you have to pass. Normally I agree. But we're in a 2 or 3 year window with Brees so I have no problem passing on a project for a more NFL ready prospect. I'm all about drafting for 2 or 3 years down the road, but the whole nerve damage thing is inordinately risky. If we had some extra picks, and were already stocked with talent on defense then sure, I'd crawl over broken glass to pick him n the 2nd. I just don't think its wise with our current situation. We have a lot of young players on defense that may develop very nicely. Do you give up on them to draft a risky feast or famine player? jeanpierre likes this.

02-16-2016, 02:03 PM	#7
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Trade Down at 12? Saints haven't had speed at Linebacker since Vilma left. Smith would be 3/4 of Dome Patrol V 2.0, it looks like they are trying to put together now

02-19-2016, 02:11 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Trade Down at 12? I may question the overall talent level in top ten and some of the hype for a few in the top twenty. But from that point on it has a nice slow decline all the way through day two. I really like this draft all the way through the 4th. Day three has more than a few really interesting risk picks. I am still a strong believer to build a team you gotta get player that stick on the club in day 2. That is how the Pats always seem to have little cap issues. mid round picks that step up and play when players are lost to FA because they want more than the wants to pay the bench is deep enough to absorb the lose.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

02-26-2016, 05:16 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Trade Down at 12? Have some pre-negotitated trades on Ready 5 so as to move back and pick up a R2 or R3 pick and select a big defensive end/tackle like Jarran Reed later in the first... But wouldn't pull the trigger right away as a Top 5 talent almost always falls... MarchingOn likes this.

02-26-2016, 06:22 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Trade Down at 12? Can anyone guess the last time we traded down with our 1st round pick? Hint... Rhymes with Nero! hagan714 likes this.

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