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Seer1 03-20-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 696672)
If the offense is top 2.

Still won"t work.

AsylumGuido 03-21-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 696655)
And conversely he may be the reason we don't sign him as well. I'll be the 1st to admit we don't know nearly as much as our front office does.

Hey, I was the first. You can be second. There are those among us, however, that still believe they know far more than the front office. :p

RaginCajun83 03-21-2016 09:03 AM

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He's visiting the Patriots today

SaintFanInATLHELL 03-21-2016 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 696649)
As we all know, we just need the defense to become middle of the pack.

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 696672)
If the offense is top 2.

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 696682)
Still won"t work.

Both sides of the ball needs to be efficient:

Offense: run efficiently, manage time of possession, efficient in the red zone, manage turnovers.

Defense: generate turnovers, get off field on 3rd down, stiffen in the red zone, stop the run to make teams on dimensional.

The offense doesn't have to be all world. The defense doesn't have to be perfect either. However, both sides need to be able to carry their water efficiently.

SFIAH

rezburna 03-21-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 696708)
He's visiting the Patriots today

It's over then. Kill the thread.

ChrisXVI 03-21-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 696708)
He's visiting the Patriots today

Oh God please let them sign him. I wanted him but I'm so worn out by it now.

WhoDatFan26 03-21-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 696611)
This is what I have been trying to point out. Yes, you, and others, are missing something. The best means of maximizing the cap is to wait to see what relief is needed using the Brees extension. By making the Brees extension too early Loomis is in danger of either pushing too much to future years, or too little. The parameters of the Brees deal will be dependent upon what is done in the remaining free agency and possible jockeying in the draft.

The Saints already know what relief is needed. Have you not been paying attention to this team for the past two seasons? We lost a Center because we couldn't pay him and tried to bring back Goodwin on the cheap. Why? Because we were up against the cap. We traded Jimmy Graham because we were up against the cap. We have had to sit on the sidelines while capable free agents that can help the team win another Superbowl are allowed to sign elsewhere. What more has to happen for people to wake up and to realize that there comes a time in everyone's life when you have to take a step back to prosper. I love Drew much like I love Kobe Bryant, but how is Kobe's $20+ Million helping My Lakers? Its not. Drew's $25+ Million isn't helping The Saints either. He doesn't even need to take a huge cut, extending his contract by 3 years and lowering his cap number by even $10 Million will actually help him out. We could've signed a proven Guard to protect him(fancy that) and get a capable defensive Tackle to ensure the defense can stop a team to take the pressure off of him. Come on, wake up. This contract should have been done already. Oh and at this time we don't even have the money to sign a draft class. This has dragged on long enough.

K Major 03-21-2016 11:55 AM

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Que Sera, Sera.

AsylumGuido 03-21-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 696717)
The Saints already know what relief is needed. Have you not been paying attention to this team for the past two seasons?

No, the Saints only know that relief is needed. As I was pointing out and you missed completely, they don't know EXACTLY what relief is needed until free agency and the draft is completed. And, yes, I have been paying very close attention for the past two years.

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We lost a Center because we couldn't pay him and tried to bring back Goodwin on the cheap. Why? Because we were up against the cap.
We lost a center because his agent was demanding more than the Saints felt he was worth. Would you have rather kept the center and gotten rid of the QB? That is today's NFL. You can't keep everyone.

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We traded Jimmy Graham because we were up against the cap.
Wrong, we traded Graham because the front office felt adding an all-pro center was more important than keeping a one dimensional TE that could not stay healthy. The net affect of the trade actually increased the cap hit for the 2015 season.

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We have had to sit on the sidelines while capable free agents that can help the team win another Superbowl are allowed to sign elsewhere.
We signed major free agents each of the last two years that have translated into expensive busts. That is not because of Brees or the supposed cap problem.

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What more has to happen for people to wake up and to realize that there comes a time in everyone's life when you have to take a step back to prosper. I love Drew much like I love Kobe Bryant, but how is Kobe's $20+ Million helping My Lakers? Its not. Drew's $25+ Million isn't helping The Saints either. He doesn't even need to take a huge cut, extending his contract by 3 years and lowering his cap number by even $10 Million will actually help him out.
Take a step back? What are you talking about? The extension you are talking about is exactly what I have been predicting for this off-season for the past two years. Loomis and Payton have both said a deal will get made. Brees came right out and said he is more than willing to work out an extension. As I have mentioned before, I would be shocked if the major portion of the deal has not already been negotiated and is only waiting until free agency and the draft have concluded to calculate the ideal amount of cap relief.

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We could've signed a proven Guard to protect him(fancy that) and get a capable defensive Tackle to ensure the defense can stop a team to take the pressure off of him. Come on, wake up.
We still can sign a proven guard, or draft one. We can still get a capable tackle, if they feel they don't already have one on roster, or draft one. Nothing is standing in the way of that. The restructure would and could take that into consideration.

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This contract should have been done already.
No, this is the very reason why the deal should not be made until all the factors are known. It makes no sense whatsoever to get locked into a set of numbers that cannot be adjusted.

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Oh and at this time we don't even have the money to sign a draft class.
You have no clue what Loomis has in the works. At this time the Saints do not need the money to sign a draft class. What they do have is plenty of time and resources to have whatever they do need when the time comes and that time is not until well after the draft has occurred.

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This has dragged on long enough.
It is only dragging for those that do not have the patience to wait.

saintfan 03-21-2016 02:55 PM

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It's over then. Kill the thread.

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