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hagan714 04-29-2016 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 701890)
I think OG is next and 7th is irrelevant.

I really like the seventh this year. while the first few rounds were lacking, I think 4 through 7 and even UDFA are really strong compared to the past few years. There is not a huge drop off.

Some solid depth talent with upside that can upgrade special teams is going to be out there.

RaginCajun83 04-29-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 701887)
I guess they felt the one we have in Kikaha is better.

we'll see when QBs still have 10 minutes to throw the ball next season

AsylumGuido 04-29-2016 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 701899)
we'll see when QBs still have 10 minutes to throw the ball next season

Have you forgotten that Kikaha was rated as one of the best edge rushers coming out in last year's draft? He was never given the opportunity in Rob Ryan's defense. He will be given that chance this year. I honestly feel Kikaha is a better option than anyone that came out of the draft today.

CharityMike 04-29-2016 11:15 PM

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I just read the pages I missed when I had to leave earlier. Not much was said about the fact that Tampa traded to move up to grab a kicker in the 2nd round....lmmfao. I heard it on the radio but thought I heard wrong. Man o man..Danno would have had a coronary if we did that. So everyone crying about our draft picks, just be glad we didn't draft a kicker with our 2nd pick..LOL

WillSaints81 04-29-2016 11:18 PM

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In the meantime.............

Who is Austin Hooper?

CharityMike 04-29-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 701904)
In the meantime.............

Who is Austin Hooper?

A TE from Stanford..why?

hagan714 04-29-2016 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 701904)
In the meantime.............

Who is Austin Hooper?

Austin is a solid TE with plenty of upside. probably more old school. wuith the falcons oL they need all the safety valves they can get.

jeanpierre 04-29-2016 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 701855)
Joel A. Erickson – Verified account ‏@JoelAErickson

Thomas' selection "is no way a reflection on Brandon." Says Thomas is a player who had a very high grade from New Orleans

Joel A. Erickson
Joel A. Erickson – Verified account ‏@JoelAErickson

Payton says there's a couple of different value charts. Saints got an equal or plus value on their chart for trade with Patriots

Larry Holder – Verified account ‏@LarryHolder

Payton said there is a concern about guard in this draft in that the Saints don't have one yet

Sean Payton needs to take his charts and throw them in the garbage...

WillSaints81 04-29-2016 11:58 PM

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I was making light of the clowns pick. Or picks shall I say. Wierder than ours.

burningmetal 04-30-2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 701902)
Have you forgotten that Kikaha was rated as one of the best edge rushers coming out in last year's draft? He was never given the opportunity in Rob Ryan's defense. He will be given that chance this year. I honestly feel Kikaha is a better option than anyone that came out of the draft today.

I like Kikaha, but he's a one trick pony. And that one trick is even one dimensional right now. He's got a LOT to learn to become a consistent pass rusher.

But who says we are set even if he were consistent? Do you know defensive line is the most important area to have depth? Remember how many pass rushers the Giants had a few years back? That worked well for them.

I think Kikaha fits well as a complimentary edge rusher. That was my thought from the get go with him. He just doesn't look like a starting defensive end. He excels at making plays on ball carriers in the open field and has great burst, but doesn't have many moves and is certainly not an edge setter.

Don't ever think you have enough defensive linemen.

spkb25 04-30-2016 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 701923)
I like Kikaha, but he's a one trick pony. And that one trick is even one dimensional right now.

http://i1.wp.com/d2bm3ljpacyxu8.clou...size=415%2C311

burningmetal 04-30-2016 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 701946)

You found a picture. Good for you.

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 08:13 AM

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Word on the street is the Saints are making phone calls to see what it would take to trade into the top of the 4th round today. It would probably cost us a 2017 pick but our front office doesn't value draft picks too highly.

lee909 04-30-2016 08:16 AM

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Probably a 2017 3rd or a 2017 4th and this years 5th.

A guard would be my guess

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 701961)
Probably a 2017 3rd or a 2017 4th and this years 5th.

A guard would be my guess

Yep. Sounds right to me. I'm thinking Christian Westerman.

halloween 65 04-30-2016 08:24 AM

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Could of had the C from Notre D. Plays C or either G spot but we passed of course.

lee909 04-30-2016 08:24 AM

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Better hurry up getting home then. I finish work at 17:50 over here do so will miss about 45 minutes of the draft

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 08:25 AM

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We'll either pick another Ohio St player or a small school gem...

:popcorn:

WhoDatFan26 04-30-2016 08:36 AM

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I have no problem with us trading a draft pick to pick up a player who will help us. I just hate to trade picks, when the player doesn't help us(Jonathon Sullivan).

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 09:07 AM

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What the heck happened to Andrew Billings?! A lot of fans wanted him with our 1st round pick and he's still available. His free fall has been shocking.

jnormand 04-30-2016 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 701986)
What the heck happened to Andrew Billings?! A lot of fans wanted him with our 1st round pick and he's still available. His free fall has been shocking.

Yeah that's crazy. This draft has been weird. The whole thing. Watch we trade up so we can get a guard and end up calling his number. Lol.

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 09:46 AM

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Wonder if SP will pick a RB next...

spkb25 04-30-2016 09:52 AM

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I wonder if we ate 2/3 of Byrd's contract could we trade him for a fouth...ehh probably not, but I can dream

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 10:05 AM

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Sean Payton recaps the second and third rounds of the 2016 NFL Draft

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 10:32 AM

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2016 NFL Draft: 9 players to target early on Day 3 - NFL.com

jeanpierre 04-30-2016 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 701959)
Word on the street is the Saints are making phone calls to see what it would take to trade into the top of the 4th round today. It would probably cost us a 2017 pick but our front office doesn't value draft picks too highly.

B-I-N-G-O !!! Somebody gets it as well...

jeanpierre 04-30-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 701995)
I wonder if we ate 2/3 of Byrd's contract could we trade him for a fouth...ehh probably not, but I can dream

F**k him. Stick him on the bench and let him rot and serve as a reminder that mailing in the check will get you deep-sixed.

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 11:19 AM

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Connor Cook off of the board to da Raiders

|Mitch| 04-30-2016 11:21 AM

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I wouldn't mind a move up, even if it meant dabbling into next years picks. It would have to be an O-Lineman though...

jeanpierre 04-30-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 701986)
What the heck happened to Andrew Billings?! A lot of fans wanted him with our 1st round pick and he's still available. His free fall has been shocking.

Kept saying how deep this draft was in tackles and still everyone is shock? LOL

jeanpierre 04-30-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 701902)
Have you forgotten that Kikaha was rated as one of the best edge rushers coming out in last year's draft? He was never given the opportunity in Rob Ryan's defense. He will be given that chance this year. I honestly feel Kikaha is a better option than anyone that came out of the draft today.

WTF? Do you even watch the games?

Kikaha disappeared when Dennis Allen took over and put him in...coverage

Ryan seemed incapable of lining the defense up from one play to the next, probably because he couldn't understand his own playbook...

But D.A. is a straight Gregg Williams spud running a 4-3 and Kikaha is gonna be too freaking small to man the end in that front unless he's a 9T (that would be lined up just inside the wide receiver) which means that linebacker between Kikaha and that tackle is gonna get road-graded...

D.A. never got it that Kikaha couldn't consistently cover in space as most 4-3 OLB are asked to do; you'll probably be in denial when Kikaha and D.A. don't work out...

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 11:33 AM

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JP..........he's not going to be a LB now. I didn't like they kept Allen as DC myself but what can you do? We have to do what we can.

FinSaint 04-30-2016 11:36 AM

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It's also worth remembering that Tull is supposedly very good at rushing the passer.

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 11:43 AM

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Bucs get a CB

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 11:44 AM

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I didn't rank that guy because I could get no game reels.

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 11:45 AM

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Who will announce the rams pick? A celebrity?

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 702038)
Who will announce the rams pick? A celebrity?

Jim Everett ... :bng:

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 11:49 AM

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Well with that buffoon for commish you never know what stunts he might try. You'll see celebrities in rams highlights this year.

CharityMike 04-30-2016 11:49 AM

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Man..wtf did Billings do to somebody? I can't believe he is still available.

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 11:50 AM

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We will probably draft him if he's still there............over a guard, which I would hate.


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