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Also played DE in college so

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And other players get looked at by all 32 teams. That's the point. 17 teams doesn't tell me he's anything more than what I've described him as. This isn't unprecedented. Team's find players in weird places who wow them with raw skills, and very quickly other teams catch on. Ultimately, he went in the 4th. So it's not like he was that hot of a prospect. I would have been ok with it if it weren't for the fact that our guards are pretty bad.

And we all saw the evidence of that, so I don't think I'm imagining that problem.

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Nobody is saying they're throwing darts at a board. But trading up for extremely unproven players seems like a lot of wishful thinking. The amount of busts every year should tell you that this isn't the science you seem to think it is.

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Give OnyoMaMa a chance.... he might actually be good.

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lol. I think I'll adopt that nickname. And I will give him a chance. I hope he becomes the next in a long line of great players with confusing names.

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Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury.

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Exactly how many busts did they have last year after dumping half of their scouting department? If I am not mistaken every pick is still on roster.

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I am not sold on Rankins, I like the two second rounders, no idea why we needed to give up next years 5th for this guy. Clearly hope I am way wrong and everyone is a stud, but our recent draft history, specifically having 3 players left on the roster from the '11,'12, and '14 draft is downright scary.

Although none of us may be in the know, the recent draft history points to the fact that the people in the draft room aren't too much in the know them damn selves.

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To you and I he may appear to be unproven. We have no where near the information on him as they do. Trading up to get him without a very firm belief in his ability would be stupid. These franchises spend dozens of hours on players they are planning on targeting where the rest of us cannot find more than 20 minutes worth of information on the web.

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Recent history is only 2015 and that one looked good. Payton cleaned house on the major players in scouting and brought in Ireland for last year. These are not the same people in the draft room beyond Payton and Loomis and Loomis is a pencil pusher.