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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; spkb25 "I am not sold on Rankins" I am not either. I do not see our 12th pick of the NFL draft as a corner stone in which to rebuild with. Even if this works out he appears to be ...

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Old 05-02-2016, 06:15 AM   #1
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spkb25 "I am not sold on Rankins"

I am not either. I do not see our 12th pick of the NFL draft as a corner stone in which to rebuild with. Even if this works out he appears to be window dressing. That key cog element I just do not see in Rankings. He will always need the players around him to set the tone so he can feed of it them. A tone setter I do not see. Reed i viewed as a corner stone. He does not need players around him to help his play. Rankings appears to be the type of player you pick to finish off a rebuild with. We needed a corner stone at DT, So the saints go into the 2016 NFL season without that key element. Making the Williams pick hard for me because Reed was still there. Sheldon and Reed together would have left us short one starting DE. Another position we did nothing to address. I wont go about that second 2nd round pick. cost was way to high for a player like him. just like throwing money around in free agency the saints are now doing the same thing with picks. scary trend when you can not win the division much less make the playoffs.

Last years picks I saw a honest chance of players being the corner stones of a rebuilding of the saints defense.

I do not see that in this draft.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:00 AM   #2
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spkb25 "I am not sold on Rankins"

I am not either. I do not see our 12th pick of the NFL draft as a corner stone in which to rebuild with. Even if this works out he appears to be window dressing. That key cog element I just do not see in Rankings. He will always need the players around him to set the tone so he can feed of it them. A tone setter I do not see. Reed i viewed as a corner stone. He does not need players around him to help his play. Rankings appears to be the type of player you pick to finish off a rebuild with. We needed a corner stone at DT, So the saints go into the 2016 NFL season without that key element. Making the Williams pick hard for me because Reed was still there. Sheldon and Reed together would have left us short one starting DE. Another position we did nothing to address. I wont go about that second 2nd round pick. cost was way to high for a player like him. just like throwing money around in free agency the saints are now doing the same thing with picks. scary trend when you can not win the division much less make the playoffs.

Last years picks I saw a honest chance of players being the corner stones of a rebuilding of the saints defense.

I do not see that in this draft.
Can you not consider that you are wrong and the front office may know what they are doing?
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Old 05-02-2016, 08:31 AM   #3
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Can you not consider that you are wrong and the front office may know what they are doing?
Every year that I slam a pick I put a crow in the freezer and have no issues in eating it with a great big smile. Sad part is I have enough crow in their to feed an army.

I want to be wrong trust me and i will take all the verbal abuse that comes along with it. Like I said I will be smiling the entire time because it would probably mean my saints are winning.

So far. i have eaten far less than I really want too.

So do not hold back when the crow is ready to be served.

I can take it like a man

I just finished my blog on the draft review so it is time to accept, move on, sit back and see how this all unfolds. Making sure I have enough condiments just encase.

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spkb25 "I am not sold on Rankins"

I am not either. I do not see our 12th pick of the NFL draft as a corner stone in which to rebuild with. Even if this works out he appears to be window dressing. That key cog element I just do not see in Rankings. He will always need the players around him to set the tone so he can feed of it them. A tone setter I do not see. Reed i viewed as a corner stone. He does not need players around him to help his play. Rankings appears to be the type of player you pick to finish off a rebuild with. We needed a corner stone at DT, So the saints go into the 2016 NFL season without that key element. Making the Williams pick hard for me because Reed was still there. Sheldon and Reed together would have left us short one starting DE. Another position we did nothing to address. I wont go about that second 2nd round pick. cost was way to high for a player like him. just like throwing money around in free agency the saints are now doing the same thing with picks. scary trend when you can not win the division much less make the playoffs.

Last years picks I saw a honest chance of players being the corner stones of a rebuilding of the saints defense.

I do not see that in this draft.
I just worry he could end up like Ellis, but I hope he is God, bevcause we need it!!

I do really like the wideout we signed and I seriously expect big things from him. Might take him some time, hard transition to NFL, but I really do expect big things from him. It is his desire that has me so pumped
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spkb25 "I am not sold on Rankins"

I am not either. I do not see our 12th pick of the NFL draft as a corner stone in which to rebuild with. Even if this works out he appears to be window dressing. That key cog element I just do not see in Rankings. He will always need the players around him to set the tone so he can feed of it them. A tone setter I do not see. Reed i viewed as a corner stone. He does not need players around him to help his play. Rankings appears to be the type of player you pick to finish off a rebuild with. We needed a corner stone at DT, So the saints go into the 2016 NFL season without that key element. Making the Williams pick hard for me because Reed was still there. Sheldon and Reed together would have left us short one starting DE. Another position we did nothing to address. I wont go about that second 2nd round pick. cost was way to high for a player like him. just like throwing money around in free agency the saints are now doing the same thing with picks. scary trend when you can not win the division much less make the playoffs.

Last years picks I saw a honest chance of players being the corner stones of a rebuilding of the saints defense.

I do not see that in this draft.

You are entitled to your opinion and I usually enjoy your take on things but I think your opinion on Rankins reeks of more butt hurt than facts. If he needs so much help around him, as you say, then explain why he destroyed everyone in the senior bowl. I get that you wanted Reed but your obsession with him is keeping you from even giving Rankins a chance. Everyone else in the football world says it was a good pick.
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Old 05-02-2016, 09:48 AM   #6
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You are entitled to your opinion and I usually enjoy your take on things but I think your opinion on Rankins reeks of more butt hurt than facts. If he needs so much help around him, as you say, then explain why he destroyed everyone in the senior bowl. I get that you wanted Reed but your obsession with him is keeping you from even giving Rankins a chance. Everyone else in the football world says it was a good pick.
No if I am hurt by the Rankins selection the player that would be is Laremy Tunsil who dropped into our laps and in my wildest dreams I never saw that coming. Reed was not even on my mind at that point.

Rankings claim to fame and the reason he sky rocketed up the board was his play at the senior bowl as you pointed out. In a season were the interior OL was good I would have given that the merit it deserved. But given this was one of the thinnest drafts for starting OG/OC in a few years I could not go this route. I had to keep him were the season ended. rated as a round 1/2 type of player because of the players he faced at the senior bowl.

He has talent there is no denying it. But good OL had success neutralizing him. So there is my contention to him and a supporting cast.

If Reed is my emotional issue, as you have justly pointed out, go to round two which he was another gift from the football gods that dropped into our laps. Thats the round were emotions really kicked in.

Jarran Reed was the pick to make the entire Rankins pick work for me. Now pair the two together and I would have been happier than a pig in **** .To get those two at the end of round two would have been a steal. That would have changed the entire DT situation for the saints and did wonders for my out look at what the saints were doing at DT. Sure by my standards is as backwards as you can get but as long as you end up there who cares. That is a match made in heaven

So he rates as a player I will sit back and watch and hope to be wrong about. Funny enough as it is the players around him will be under the microscope for me more than him.

Sheldon Rankins will be competing with the ghost of Laremy Tunsilwill

Michael Thomas will be competing with the ghost of Jarran Reed

Ghost crowd my fragile egg shell mind.

So the season has started and it is time to grease the band wagon.
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No if I am hurt by the Rankins selection the player that would be is Laremy Tunsil who dropped into our laps and in my wildest dreams I never saw that coming. Reed was not even on my mind at that point.

Rankings claim to fame and the reason he sky rocketed up the board was his play at the senior bowl as you pointed out. In a season were the interior OL was good I would have given that the merit it deserved. But given this was one of the thinnest drafts for starting OG/OC in a few years I could not go this route. I had to keep him were the season ended. rated as a round 1/2 type of player because of the players he faced at the senior bowl.

He has talent there is no denying it. But good OL had success neutralizing him. So there is my contention to him and a supporting cast.

If Reed is my emotional issue, as you have justly pointed out, go to round two which he was another gift from the football gods that dropped into our laps. Thats the round were emotions really kicked in.

Jarran Reed was the pick to make the entire Rankins pick work for me. Now pair the two together and I would have been happier than a pig in **** .To get those two at the end of round two would have been a steal. That would have changed the entire DT situation for the saints and did wonders for my out look at what the saints were doing at DT. Sure by my standards is as backwards as you can get but as long as you end up there who cares. That is a match made in heaven

So he rates as a player I will sit back and watch and hope to be wrong about. Funny enough as it is the players around him will be under the microscope for me more than him.

Sheldon Rankins will be competing with the ghost of Laremy Tunsilwill

Michael Thomas will be competing with the ghost of Jarran Reed

Ghost crowd my fragile egg shell mind.

So the season has started and it is time to grease the band wagon.
I get what you are saying we just differ on opinion. I know that I am not looking all the game film or talking to players coach's just like the vast majority are not. I never allow myself to get caught up in any particular player because we don't have a clue as to what the people making the decisions are thinking.

I can clearly see why we drafted who we did. I personally love the Rankins pick. I have seen enough and read enough to know it was a good pick. The WR was a NEED. I get that Reed would have been nice to pair with Rankins but we NEEDED a WR to make plays in the RZ. The coaching staff obviously felt like he was the BPA and I am ok with that. It fills a need and he has good upside. Now the DB pick was the one I wish we used to add the DL. I get the pick but I feel like we could have drafted a starter instead of a player who might rotate in.
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