Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?

09-03-2016, 12:27 PM

Payton's job is safe..........Loomis could be on the hot seat though.

halloween 65 · 09-03-2016, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

I like Joe Vitt. The Joe Vitt and Pete Carmichael combo did a pretty good job in Payton absence. So we don't necessarily need to pick up an unemployed coach.

Wow!!

WillSaints81 · 09-03-2016, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You almost need to demote him down to OC only.

That is the only thing he is good for. And maybe his FO decision making. If Payton does not regain his old form, then we won't win a sb. Unless, Brees or someone fills that void of his that's been left behind.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 05:39 AM

So, an 0-3 start

Two back to back 7-9 seasons, defense is worse than last year in terms of points allowed and Brees is once again having to try to score every possession.

Payton not getting the team prepared, bad drafts and a failure to stick to schemes (drafting 3-4 players and then switching to a 4-3) has finally caught up with us.

Injuries have played a part but cannot be blamed alone, this team is 4-11 in the last 15 home games!!

Payton has kept Darymple (strength and conditioning coach), Vitt, McMahon, Dennis Allen and Bill Johnson all in a job when it's obvious that they all suck!!

Nothing would make me happier than for Payton to be handed his leaving papers, has anyone changed their mind from when this thread was originally posted by myself?

neugey · 09-27-2016, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

So, an 0-3 start

Two back to back 7-9 seasons, defense is worse than last year in terms of points allowed and Brees is once again having to try to score every possession.

Payton not getting the team prepared, bad drafts and a failure to stick to schemes (drafting 3-4 players and then switching to a 4-3) has finally caught up with us.

Injuries have played a part but cannot be blamed alone, this team is 4-11 in the last 15 home games!!

Payton has kept Darymple (strength and conditioning coach), Vitt, McMahon, Dennis Allen and Bill Johnson all in a job when it's obvious that they all suck!!

Nothing would make me happier than for Payton to be handed his leaving papers, has anyone changed their mind from when this thread was originally posted by myself?

I think it's almost certain now that Payton has lost the team. But this organization might not have the guts to push the reset button on Payton and his staff unless we finish in the 0-5 win range. Finish in the 6-8 win range and then it's likely Payton will get a pass because of the injuries.

We are a very bad 0-3 ... Brees is in top form and looking like far and away the most accurate QB in the league the way Marino once did. It is hard to lose with QB play like this, but somehow it is happening.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

I think it's almost certain now that Payton has lost the team. But this organization might not have the guts to push the reset button on Payton and his staff unless we finish in the 0-5 win range. Finish in the 6-8 win range and then it's likely Payton will get a pass because of the injuries.

We are a very bad 0-3 ... Brees is in top form and looking like far and away the most accurate QB in the league the way Marino once did. It is hard to lose with QB play like this, but somehow it is happening.

Absolutely agree!

If we end up picking top 5 in the draft, I hope Payton and his cronies are gone by then so they don't screw them up.

I too, don't know if management are brave enough to do the correct thing!

darksoul35 · 09-27-2016, 09:09 AM

The defense was looking a lot better before all the injuries. We basically had a high school team out there. I understand everyone being upset but we our defense has had more injuries in the first 3 weeks than most teams have all year.

captainshawn · 09-27-2016, 10:12 AM

Yes his job is safe and it should be.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by captainshawn

Yes his job is safe and it should be.

This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe?

saintfan · 09-27-2016, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe?

Because he's not playing with anywhere near the team he thought he'd be playing with.

You don't 'coach up' a guy who's been in the league 4 or 5 years and was on the street until you called because you have nowhere else to turn.

You don't throw an undrafted rookie free agent up against two of the best wide receivers in the league, in back-to-back weeks, because you want to.

You honor what's left on his contract and you give the man an opportunity to correct the problems, hopefully with relatively healthy players, a luxury he has not had lately.

That's my .02

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,666	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by joker-saint I like Joe Vitt. The Joe Vitt and Pete Carmichael combo did a pretty good job in Payton absence. So we don't necessarily need to pick up an unemployed coach. Wow!! K Major likes this.

09-03-2016, 01:47 PM	#63
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Euphoria You almost need to demote him down to OC only. That is the only thing he is good for. And maybe his FO decision making. If Payton does not regain his old form, then we won't win a sb. Unless, Brees or someone fills that void of his that's been left behind.

09-27-2016, 05:39 AM	#64
dizzle88 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,381	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? So, an 0-3 start Two back to back 7-9 seasons, defense is worse than last year in terms of points allowed and Brees is once again having to try to score every possession. Payton not getting the team prepared, bad drafts and a failure to stick to schemes (drafting 3-4 players and then switching to a 4-3) has finally caught up with us. Injuries have played a part but cannot be blamed alone, this team is 4-11 in the last 15 home games!! Payton has kept Darymple (strength and conditioning coach), Vitt, McMahon, Dennis Allen and Bill Johnson all in a job when it's obvious that they all suck!! Nothing would make me happier than for Payton to be handed his leaving papers, has anyone changed their mind from when this thread was originally posted by myself?
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09-27-2016, 07:32 AM	#65
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,895 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by dizzle88 So, an 0-3 start Two back to back 7-9 seasons, defense is worse than last year in terms of points allowed and Brees is once again having to try to score every possession. Payton not getting the team prepared, bad drafts and a failure to stick to schemes (drafting 3-4 players and then switching to a 4-3) has finally caught up with us. Injuries have played a part but cannot be blamed alone, this team is 4-11 in the last 15 home games!! Payton has kept Darymple (strength and conditioning coach), Vitt, McMahon, Dennis Allen and Bill Johnson all in a job when it's obvious that they all suck!! Nothing would make me happier than for Payton to be handed his leaving papers, has anyone changed their mind from when this thread was originally posted by myself? I think it's almost certain now that Payton has lost the team. But this organization might not have the guts to push the reset button on Payton and his staff unless we finish in the 0-5 win range. Finish in the 6-8 win range and then it's likely Payton will get a pass because of the injuries. We are a very bad 0-3 ... Brees is in top form and looking like far and away the most accurate QB in the league the way Marino once did. It is hard to lose with QB play like this, but somehow it is happening. dizzle88 likes this.
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dizzle88 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,381	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by neugey I think it's almost certain now that Payton has lost the team. But this organization might not have the guts to push the reset button on Payton and his staff unless we finish in the 0-5 win range. Finish in the 6-8 win range and then it's likely Payton will get a pass because of the injuries. We are a very bad 0-3 ... Brees is in top form and looking like far and away the most accurate QB in the league the way Marino once did. It is hard to lose with QB play like this, but somehow it is happening. Absolutely agree! If we end up picking top 5 in the draft, I hope Payton and his cronies are gone by then so they don't screw them up. I too, don't know if management are brave enough to do the correct thing!
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09-27-2016, 09:09 AM	#67
darksoul35 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 983	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? The defense was looking a lot better before all the injuries. We basically had a high school team out there. I understand everyone being upset but we our defense has had more injuries in the first 3 weeks than most teams have all year.
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09-27-2016, 10:14 AM	#69
dizzle88 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,381	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by captainshawn Yes his job is safe and it should be. This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe?
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by dizzle88 This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe? Because he's not playing with anywhere near the team he thought he'd be playing with. You don't 'coach up' a guy who's been in the league 4 or 5 years and was on the street until you called because you have nowhere else to turn. You don't throw an undrafted rookie free agent up against two of the best wide receivers in the league, in back-to-back weeks, because you want to. You honor what's left on his contract and you give the man an opportunity to correct the problems, hopefully with relatively healthy players, a luxury he has not had lately. That's my .02 Rugby Saint II likes this.
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