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Euphoria · 03-10-2005, 01:53 PM

I thought there was a long standing guide we went by here on this site and that was post links to news you hear about/stats ect. I come here for years now, even before this name another one, and I don\'t care much for hear-say. I can get that anywheres. Facts and we discuss, I think that is pretty simple.

baronm · 03-10-2005, 02:02 PM

Why on earth would an agent , who is trying to make a deal with KC..be giving info to guy who is unemployed by the Chiefs...or any team at all?..Then...Why would someone who was granted this kind of inside..private info..be spilling it out on the Net?...What kind of person does that?

a person who works for the saints--seriously all sarcasm aside.. i just take it as his opinion-if it happens cool. if not..well he was wrong...it really doesn\'t hurt anyone and it\'s kinda fun to speculate.

shadowdrinker · 03-10-2005, 02:06 PM

Why on earth would an agent , who is trying to make a deal with KC..be giving info to guy who is unemployed by the Chiefs...or any team at all?..Then...Why would someone who was granted this kind of inside..private info..be spilling it out on the Net?...What kind of person does that?

a person who works for the saints--seriously all sarcasm aside.. i just take it as his opinion-if it happens cool. if not..well he was wrong...it really doesn\'t hurt anyone and it\'s kinda fun to speculate.

Does he work for the Saints...NO...

My question remains...Why would they tell an outsider that sort of sensitive info...

And..what kind of person would turn around..betray thier trust...and spill it all on the Net?

I\'m not saying he doesn\'t have some interesting info...but..it likely comes from a paysite...

And this isn\'t the first time someone\'s \'\'source\'\' has come into question..it happens on a near daily basis....It has happened to me at least 5 times..and I, in turn..show links..and in some particular cases...I state the channel on which I saw or heard whatever I may post...

If your going to come in flaring big time info..you need big time proof..otherwise...Like 08 said..\'\'It\'s graffitti\'\'...

[Edited on 10/3/2005 by shadowdrinker]

[Edited on 10/3/2005 by shadowdrinker]

Euphoria · 03-10-2005, 02:11 PM

Its not an opinion if you site your source as being so-and-so . Its fact at that point. If its your opinon than you state well I think/believe ect. If history dictates on this site wording things on here is very touchy and picky.

Its the same thing if you post \"I head there is a deal made that will come out later that Aaron Books is going to Indy and Manning is coming here... I got this from Haz himself. So you run around telling all you know this information...

Posting the link or downloading the article is very helpful to all here.

[Edited on 10/3/2005 by Euphoria]

JOESAM2002 · 03-10-2005, 02:21 PM

Well let\'s just say you\'ll do it for me! Afterall what you\'re doing by calling him out is against the rules. Next since he is a member here he has as much right to not be ridaculed as you do. So stop please. It\'s just not right. If you choose to not believe him then that is your perogative. But you are not allowed to down another member.So cool it.Euphoria, I am surprised at you taking part in this witch hunt. You\'re better than that. Shadow is a fairly new poster but he knows better too. I hope I got my point across.

You 2 do realize if he is telling the truth you might be running off a very good sorce of information. But if you knew that you wouldn\'t be doing what you are doing,would you?

So, give the man a chance.

P.S. Don\'t think for one minute that NFL teams don\'t have interns. I know for a fact they do.

[Edited on 10/3/2005 by JOESAM2002]

shadowdrinker · 03-10-2005, 02:33 PM

Well let\'s just say you\'ll do it for me! Afterall what you\'re doing by calling him out is against the rules. Next since he is a member here he has as much right to not be ridaculed as you do. So stop please. It\'s just not right. If you choose to not believe him then that is your perogative. But you are not allowed to down another member.So cool it.Euphoria, I am surprised at you taking part in this witch hunt. You\'re better than that. Shadow is a fairly new poster but he knows better too. I hope I got my point across.

You 2 do realize if he is telling the truth you might be running off a very good sorce of information. But if you knew that you wouldn\'t be doing what you are doing,would you?

So, give the man a chance.

P.S. Don\'t think for one minute that NFL teams don\'t have interns. I know for a fact they do.

[Edited on 10/3/2005 by JOESAM2002]

\'\'calling him out is against the rules\'\'

What?...so..we\'re just suppose to take it all in faith?

I have seen each and every one of the Regs in here , at some point, \'\'Call a person out\'\'..and question thier source...especially if they post something big without a link...

To say we\'re \'\'breaking the rules\'\'..is questionable...we haven\'t cursed...or name called...

Just want to know why , if he is blessed with the inside scoop..why is he telling all these things on a fan site?...

Doesn\'t make sense to me..seems like if someone was given permission to get this info..they would be expected to keep it quiet...that\'s just common sense,...

LordOfEntropy · 03-10-2005, 02:48 PM

Well, he\'s pretty much been labeled an outright liar...

And maybe that\'s right. But if it\'s wrong (however unlikely, and assuming he can prove that) then someone owes the guy an apology, I think. Not because of questioning the authenticity - that\'s never a problem, and never should be - but because of the tone.

The tone in some of these posts was pretty insulting. At least, I know I\'d be insulted.

That\'s it for my two cents, for whatever it\'s worth.

JOESAM2002 · 03-10-2005, 02:49 PM

Ok, you need to lighten up! After all you are wrong! I had things sent to me that only an insider would know. I feel that he is being very truthful in what he says. After seeing what I saw I will believe what he says, but after all it\'s only his impression of the facts as he sees them.

As for you shadowdrinker, I do not owe you any explanation. Abid by the rules or leave, It\'s your choice.

Looks to me like you 2 owe CanLoomis a big apology! If you\'re honest you will, if not then you must be calling me a liar.

Euphoria · 03-10-2005, 02:51 PM

I don\'t think anyone is trying to run anyone off... I did say I like his posts usually they are informative and I value everyones opinion on here... but when you use sources and drop names we are setting a bad president and on occasion members do ask to see someone\'s source on information one posts here...
You have to right to defend any side you want to as well... but I don\'t want to see people putting out wrong information. You do have the right to your opinon but I don\'t think you should be allowed to put out wrong info... its no worse than Buc fans getting in here and posting garbage.
So a few of us here see some errors in this thread and others and start questioning them... nothing wrong with that... isn\'t that what we are discussing... free to say what we want and discuss opinons and ideas.

shadowdrinker · 03-10-2005, 02:57 PM

Ok, you need to lighten up! After all you are wrong! I had things sent to me that only an insider would know. I feel that he is being very truthful in what he says. After seeing what I saw I will believe what he says, but after all it\'s only his impression of the facts as he sees them.

As for you shadowdrinker, I do not owe you any explanation. Abid by the rules or leave, It\'s your choice.

Looks to me like you 2 owe CanLoomis a big apology! If you\'re honest you will, if not then you must be calling me a liar.

\'\'I had things sent to ME that only an insider would know.\'\'

Do tell...

03-10-2005, 01:53 PM	#41
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Saints Draft Board I thought there was a long standing guide we went by here on this site and that was post links to news you hear about/stats ect. I come here for years now, even before this name another one, and I don\'t care much for hear-say. I can get that anywheres. Facts and we discuss, I think that is pretty simple.

03-10-2005, 02:02 PM	#42
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Saints Draft Board Why on earth would an agent , who is trying to make a deal with KC..be giving info to guy who is unemployed by the Chiefs...or any team at all?..Then...Why would someone who was granted this kind of inside..private info..be spilling it out on the Net?...What kind of person does that? a person who works for the saints--seriously all sarcasm aside.. i just take it as his opinion-if it happens cool. if not..well he was wrong...it really doesn\'t hurt anyone and it\'s kinda fun to speculate.
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03-10-2005, 02:06 PM	#43
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Saints Draft Board Why on earth would an agent , who is trying to make a deal with KC..be giving info to guy who is unemployed by the Chiefs...or any team at all?..Then...Why would someone who was granted this kind of inside..private info..be spilling it out on the Net?...What kind of person does that? a person who works for the saints--seriously all sarcasm aside.. i just take it as his opinion-if it happens cool. if not..well he was wrong...it really doesn\'t hurt anyone and it\'s kinda fun to speculate. Does he work for the Saints...NO... My question remains...Why would they tell an outsider that sort of sensitive info... And..what kind of person would turn around..betray thier trust...and spill it all on the Net? I\'m not saying he doesn\'t have some interesting info...but..it likely comes from a paysite... And this isn\'t the first time someone\'s \'\'source\'\' has come into question..it happens on a near daily basis....It has happened to me at least 5 times..and I, in turn..show links..and in some particular cases...I state the channel on which I saw or heard whatever I may post... If your going to come in flaring big time info..you need big time proof..otherwise...Like 08 said..\'\'It\'s graffitti\'\'... [Edited on 10/3/2005 by shadowdrinker] [Edited on 10/3/2005 by shadowdrinker]
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03-10-2005, 02:11 PM	#44
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Saints Draft Board Its not an opinion if you site your source as being so-and-so . Its fact at that point. If its your opinon than you state well I think/believe ect. If history dictates on this site wording things on here is very touchy and picky. Its the same thing if you post \"I head there is a deal made that will come out later that Aaron Books is going to Indy and Manning is coming here... I got this from Haz himself. So you run around telling all you know this information... Posting the link or downloading the article is very helpful to all here. [Edited on 10/3/2005 by Euphoria]
	E U P H O R I A

03-10-2005, 02:21 PM	#45
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Saints Draft Board Well let\'s just say you\'ll do it for me! Afterall what you\'re doing by calling him out is against the rules. Next since he is a member here he has as much right to not be ridaculed as you do. So stop please. It\'s just not right. If you choose to not believe him then that is your perogative. But you are not allowed to down another member.So cool it.Euphoria, I am surprised at you taking part in this witch hunt. You\'re better than that. Shadow is a fairly new poster but he knows better too. I hope I got my point across. You 2 do realize if he is telling the truth you might be running off a very good sorce of information. But if you knew that you wouldn\'t be doing what you are doing,would you? So, give the man a chance. P.S. Don\'t think for one minute that NFL teams don\'t have interns. I know for a fact they do. [Edited on 10/3/2005 by JOESAM2002]
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03-10-2005, 02:33 PM	#46
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Saints Draft Board Well let\'s just say you\'ll do it for me! Afterall what you\'re doing by calling him out is against the rules. Next since he is a member here he has as much right to not be ridaculed as you do. So stop please. It\'s just not right. If you choose to not believe him then that is your perogative. But you are not allowed to down another member.So cool it.Euphoria, I am surprised at you taking part in this witch hunt. You\'re better than that. Shadow is a fairly new poster but he knows better too. I hope I got my point across. You 2 do realize if he is telling the truth you might be running off a very good sorce of information. But if you knew that you wouldn\'t be doing what you are doing,would you? So, give the man a chance. P.S. Don\'t think for one minute that NFL teams don\'t have interns. I know for a fact they do. [Edited on 10/3/2005 by JOESAM2002] \'\'calling him out is against the rules\'\' What?...so..we\'re just suppose to take it all in faith? I have seen each and every one of the Regs in here , at some point, \'\'Call a person out\'\'..and question thier source...especially if they post something big without a link... To say we\'re \'\'breaking the rules\'\'..is questionable...we haven\'t cursed...or name called... Just want to know why , if he is blessed with the inside scoop..why is he telling all these things on a fan site?... Doesn\'t make sense to me..seems like if someone was given permission to get this info..they would be expected to keep it quiet...that\'s just common sense,...
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03-10-2005, 02:48 PM	#47
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Saints Draft Board Well, he\'s pretty much been labeled an outright liar... And maybe that\'s right. But if it\'s wrong (however unlikely, and assuming he can prove that) then someone owes the guy an apology, I think. Not because of questioning the authenticity - that\'s never a problem, and never should be - but because of the tone. The tone in some of these posts was pretty insulting. At least, I know I\'d be insulted. That\'s it for my two cents, for whatever it\'s worth.

03-10-2005, 02:49 PM	#48
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Saints Draft Board Ok, you need to lighten up! After all you are wrong! I had things sent to me that only an insider would know. I feel that he is being very truthful in what he says. After seeing what I saw I will believe what he says, but after all it\'s only his impression of the facts as he sees them. As for you shadowdrinker, I do not owe you any explanation. Abid by the rules or leave, It\'s your choice. Looks to me like you 2 owe CanLoomis a big apology! If you\'re honest you will, if not then you must be calling me a liar.
	Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!! "Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.

03-10-2005, 02:51 PM	#49
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Saints Draft Board I don\'t think anyone is trying to run anyone off... I did say I like his posts usually they are informative and I value everyones opinion on here... but when you use sources and drop names we are setting a bad president and on occasion members do ask to see someone\'s source on information one posts here... You have to right to defend any side you want to as well... but I don\'t want to see people putting out wrong information. You do have the right to your opinon but I don\'t think you should be allowed to put out wrong info... its no worse than Buc fans getting in here and posting garbage. So a few of us here see some errors in this thread and others and start questioning them... nothing wrong with that... isn\'t that what we are discussing... free to say what we want and discuss opinons and ideas.
	E U P H O R I A

03-10-2005, 02:57 PM	#50
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Saints Draft Board Ok, you need to lighten up! After all you are wrong! I had things sent to me that only an insider would know. I feel that he is being very truthful in what he says. After seeing what I saw I will believe what he says, but after all it\'s only his impression of the facts as he sees them. As for you shadowdrinker, I do not owe you any explanation. Abid by the rules or leave, It\'s your choice. Looks to me like you 2 owe CanLoomis a big apology! If you\'re honest you will, if not then you must be calling me a liar. \'\'I had things sent to ME that only an insider would know.\'\' Do tell...
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