Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 740062) I've never seen so many cry baby's n my life...

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 740073) I've never seen a string of 7-9 seasons like this before in my life

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 740074) And thats why i agree with the trade Cooks wasn't going to get us over this slumo. Drew time is running shorter and its time to throw the chips down. Cooks was an expendable assest. The front office took the best offer available and will try to improve the defense. The move up from 4th round to end of the 3rd is a bonus and could be the difference in a player we want. The offense has lost 1100 yards. With an improved defense take some yards off. You can easily see Thomas and hopefully Fleener covering a third to half them yards and Ginn can easily be a 4-700 yard receiver. A new slot receiver/3rd down back will cover the holes too. This isnt loosing a Graham/Colston type thats also a massive red zone threat. Changes needed made

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 740076) So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 740076) So SP was just blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ when he said it would take a significant offer to trade away Cooks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

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We took an unproven prospect with Zona's 20th pick of the draft giving up our 1st round, 27th pick and our 3rd round, 91st pick in 2014...

Now we're sending a Top 5 proven NFL wide receiver, 23yo, healthy and our 4th round, pick 118 to New England, for the Patriots' first round, pick 32 and third round, pick 76...

And as I said on the other thread, it's not realistic to expect to recover Loomis/Payton's reach and overpay to get Cooks, but damn, to have to give up two picks in return again?!?

AND to see that 4th round pick killed by Goodell for Deflategate; why not trade back in the fourth before and get a fifth round pick first - Just, D*mn...

New England NEVER loses in trades...

Forget the salary cap hit by Cooks bonus in a few days, but we've only once seemingly won on a trade (Graham to Seattle) and even that's in jeopardy because we took a near rookie of the year on defense and turned him into a marginal roster player making the trade more even now - Unger has been a gem...

But now, it would seem, the Mickster is back to his old self and buffoonery - Bet Benson would have never let Mickey near his car business back in the day...

Were we ever able to confirm the Titans offer? Are we sending Cooks further away thinking we won't hear his name again? Something's amiss and I'm sure we'll hear Coach P with his doubletalk, new speak spin before long where he says a whole lotta nothing...

This further damns Payton/Loomis' credibility in trade negotiations as now everyone in the league will know they're FOS on standards "it would take a significant offer"?

MFer, C'mon Sean! You're a great X&Os man but stay the f*ck out of the business end of it or you'll be a one-hit wonder...

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 740081) Let's remember at this time last year the "Experts" were crying because of our poor WR class. "No real #1" By the end of the season it was "The best WR trio in the NFL!!!"

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 740090) I read Cooks got into a shouting match with coaches after the Ram game. A malcontent that was gone next year for a big asking price. We didn't have much leverage and 31 other teams probably knew it. I'm guessing the extended wait Friday was we were trying to get the best deal. This was the best deal on the table

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 740091) It does make me wonder if he was going to be released ASAP anyways.

If so, we got an extra draft pick in the first and moved up a few spaces from the fourth to the end of the third. I know I was all starry eyed thinking about getting one of the Titans first rounders and this or that player, but if we were getting rid of him regardless then hey. We came out okay... maybe even better than okay.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 740095) Doubtful as it wouldn't have been in the team's best interest. This is the best timing for two reasons: 1. Cooks was owed a $750K roster bonus Monday. 2. If the Saints were not going to pick up his 5th year option, then he would be a free agent one year from now. In short, this was the best time for a trade. If a suitable deal was not to be had, the Saints would had kept him at a cheap price this upcoming season then let him go into free agency with nothing in return. and so.... Exactly. Many are complaining that the Saints got screwed. The bottom line is that trying to play hardball would leave the team letting Cooks go with nothing in return. SFIAH

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 740050) Ask yourself what is the difference between pick #32 & pick #33

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 740100) HUGE difference. #32 carries the fifth year option.

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 740086) Look guys in the end we didn't end up with much less than we gave for Cooks. The draft picks are important this year and Cooks wouldn't have been as important. Thomas would've eaten up a lot of Cooks yards, Snead will take some more and the younger receivers, well their young and will take up the rest of the slack. Maybe we look at another Sproles type and pass, pass, pass! Cooks is a good player but he wouldn't have made us good enough to win the division, now 2 picks on the other hand might? It's a chance we must be able to allow our Saints!

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 740090) I read Cooks got into a shouting match with coaches after the Ram game. A malcontent that was gone next year for a big asking price. We didn't have much leverage and 31 other teams probably knew it. I'm guessing the extended wait Friday was we were trying to get the best deal. This was the best deal on the table

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 740102) How exactly is Cooks a top 5 in talent at WR? He wouldn't put up the #'s he did with 3/4 of the league's qb's out there.

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 740116) I don't think Cooks is the player a lot of you have him out to be.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 740113) Not much of a difference when you chose to trade the player away before the 5th year can be picked up.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 740118) You might be right, and you might be wrong. I don't know if 32 is either...

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 740109) Almost all losses by less than a score with a D almost dead last. Think he would be grateful we are going to address it and improve his squad.

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 740120) He isn't a QB He isn't a #1 reciever We are a system that doesn't need a 1 or 2 guy. He fit our deep threat guy and we replaced him. He is expendable for D help and we cut him loose now why we have something to get in return. Next year nothing for him...

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 740120) He isn't a QB He isn't a #1 reciever We are a system that doesn't need a 1 or 2 guy. He fit our deep threat guy and we replaced him. He is expendable for D help and we cut him loose now why we have something to get in return. Next year nothing for him... The other part of the problem is that there was talks of trading with other teams and everyone's hopes we'd get a highter pick. Those havn't been proven to be true and or didn't pan out. This is what we got.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 740124) This is what we accepted, not what we got.

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 740126) his value is what you get for him.

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 740126) ??? accepted and got is the same thing... .