Defense Defense Defense

hagan714 · 03-25-2017, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We just need to add someone to catch Fleener or Ginn Jr. Brees has never had a offense where not one player has the Colston or Graham factor. If you take a closer look at Thomas, he does not have Cooks' speed and a lot of his runs were after the catch. That's not how a elite receiver operates.

Tedd is another Robert Meachem.

Thomas looks to have all the makings of a solid possession receiver just like Colston.

Fleener truthfully is entering the last year of his ridiculous contract. If the saints play this right

You bring me to my TE pick of OJ Howard. One of the benefits of Howard is getting us out of that freaking contract next year so we can have an additional 3.3 million in 2018 and 6.3 million in 2019. Of course this is after subtracting out OJs cost to us of about $2,5 mill/yr if picked at 11. Cap control via the draft. A thing the Pats do extremely well.

Now to my second point. Find me a WR that can match Howard combination of athletic/size/speed combination. He has the skill set to make you forget about Graham He is Graham with a skill set Jimmy was never good at. Blocking. Right now I am thinking he is not only the best TE in the draft but could be the best WR. Your actually drafting two players with one pick. He will make up for Cooks loss. This is a once in a life time freak.

O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.51 #88 Sr

This guy running around in the secondary would scare the helll out of DC league wide. Knowing that Drew loves using his TE makes him even more dangerous. Freeing up every one. Ever see OJ block down field. A thing of beauty. His impact on the field would be felt on every down no matter what he does.

WillSaints81 · 03-25-2017, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Tedd is another Robert Meachem.

Thomas looks to have all the makings of a solid possession receiver just like Colston.

Fleener truthfully is entering the last year of his ridiculous contract. If the saints play this right

You bring me to my TE pick of OJ Howard. One of the benefits of Howard is getting us out of that freaking contract next year so we can have an additional 3.3 million in 2018 and 6.3 million in 2019. Of course this is after subtracting out OJs cost to us of about $2,5 mill/yr if picked at 11. Cap control via the draft. A thing the Pats do extremely well.

Now to my second point. Find me a WR that can match Howard combination of athletic/size/speed combination. He has the skill set to make you forget about Graham He is Graham with a skill set Jimmy was never good at. Blocking. Right now I am thinking he is not only the best TE in the draft but could be the best WR. Your actually drafting two players with one pick. He will make up for Cooks loss. This is a once in a life time freak.

O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.51 #88 Sr

This guy running around in the secondary would scare the helll out of DC league wide. Knowing that Drew loves using his TE makes him even more dangerous. Freeing up every one. Ever see OJ block down field. A thing of beauty. His impact on the field would be felt on every down no matter what he does.

I will give you a reason why Fleener is still here. I'm going to bet Brees and his family are closest to him than anyone else on the team.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-26-2017, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I will give you a reason why Fleener is still here. I'm going to bet Brees and his family are closest to him than anyone else on the team.

Fascinating conspiracy theory. Ever heard of Occam's Razor where the most logical explanation is likely the correct one? Try this on for size.

Per: Coby Fleener Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

Fleener has nearly $15 million guaranteed on his contract including a $8 million signing bonus. It's cost the Saints $12 million in dead cap to cut him now. Next year the dead cap will be under $5 million against a $8 million cap hit.

In short too expensive to cut now. Cheap enough to do next year.

BTW what evidence do you have that Brees and Fleener have anything other than a professional relationship?

Occam's Razor.

SFIAH

jnormand · 03-26-2017, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I will give you a reason why Fleener is still here. I'm going to bet Brees and his family are closest to him than anyone else on the team.

Dude you've lost your mind. That is absolutely ridiculous. When and where have you ever seen that they're buddies? I've seen nor heard nothing of the such. And even if they were, who cares? Brees wouldn't be the reason they kept Fleener. It'd be stupid and illogical to cut him this year anyway you psycho.

WillSaints81 · 03-27-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Dude you've lost your mind. That is absolutely ridiculous. When and where have you ever seen that they're buddies? I've seen nor heard nothing of the such. And even if they were, who cares? Brees wouldn't be the reason they kept Fleener. It'd be stupid and illogical to cut him this year anyway you psycho.

Psycho?

K Major · 03-28-2017, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Psycho?

03-25-2017, 07:04 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Defense Defense Defense Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We just need to add someone to catch Fleener or Ginn Jr. Brees has never had a offense where not one player has the Colston or Graham factor. If you take a closer look at Thomas, he does not have Cooks' speed and a lot of his runs were after the catch. That's not how a elite receiver operates. Tedd is another Robert Meachem. Thomas looks to have all the makings of a solid possession receiver just like Colston. Fleener truthfully is entering the last year of his ridiculous contract. If the saints play this right You bring me to my TE pick of OJ Howard. One of the benefits of Howard is getting us out of that freaking contract next year so we can have an additional 3.3 million in 2018 and 6.3 million in 2019. Of course this is after subtracting out OJs cost to us of about $2,5 mill/yr if picked at 11. Cap control via the draft. A thing the Pats do extremely well. Now to my second point. Find me a WR that can match Howard combination of athletic/size/speed combination. He has the skill set to make you forget about Graham He is Graham with a skill set Jimmy was never good at. Blocking. Right now I am thinking he is not only the best TE in the draft but could be the best WR. Your actually drafting two players with one pick. He will make up for Cooks loss. This is a once in a life time freak. O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.51 #88 Sr This guy running around in the secondary would scare the helll out of DC league wide. Knowing that Drew loves using his TE makes him even more dangerous. Freeing up every one. Ever see OJ block down field. A thing of beauty. His impact on the field would be felt on every down no matter what he does. Rugby Saint II, Sarik and MarchingOn like this.
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03-25-2017, 07:43 PM	#2
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Defense Defense Defense Originally Posted by hagan714 Tedd is another Robert Meachem. Thomas looks to have all the makings of a solid possession receiver just like Colston. Fleener truthfully is entering the last year of his ridiculous contract. If the saints play this right You bring me to my TE pick of OJ Howard. One of the benefits of Howard is getting us out of that freaking contract next year so we can have an additional 3.3 million in 2018 and 6.3 million in 2019. Of course this is after subtracting out OJs cost to us of about $2,5 mill/yr if picked at 11. Cap control via the draft. A thing the Pats do extremely well. Now to my second point. Find me a WR that can match Howard combination of athletic/size/speed combination. He has the skill set to make you forget about Graham He is Graham with a skill set Jimmy was never good at. Blocking. Right now I am thinking he is not only the best TE in the draft but could be the best WR. Your actually drafting two players with one pick. He will make up for Cooks loss. This is a once in a life time freak. O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.51 #88 Sr This guy running around in the secondary would scare the helll out of DC league wide. Knowing that Drew loves using his TE makes him even more dangerous. Freeing up every one. Ever see OJ block down field. A thing of beauty. His impact on the field would be felt on every down no matter what he does. I will give you a reason why Fleener is still here. I'm going to bet Brees and his family are closest to him than anyone else on the team.

03-26-2017, 10:42 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Defense Defense Defense Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I will give you a reason why Fleener is still here. I'm going to bet Brees and his family are closest to him than anyone else on the team. Fascinating conspiracy theory. Ever heard of Occam's Razor where the most logical explanation is likely the correct one? Try this on for size. Per: Coby Fleener Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses \| Spotrac Fleener has nearly $15 million guaranteed on his contract including a $8 million signing bonus. It's cost the Saints $12 million in dead cap to cut him now. Next year the dead cap will be under $5 million against a $8 million cap hit. In short too expensive to cut now. Cheap enough to do next year. BTW what evidence do you have that Brees and Fleener have anything other than a professional relationship? Occam's Razor. SFIAH jnormand, hagan714 and K Major like this.
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03-26-2017, 05:42 PM	#4
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,761	Re: Defense Defense Defense Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I will give you a reason why Fleener is still here. I'm going to bet Brees and his family are closest to him than anyone else on the team. Dude you've lost your mind. That is absolutely ridiculous. When and where have you ever seen that they're buddies? I've seen nor heard nothing of the such. And even if they were, who cares? Brees wouldn't be the reason they kept Fleener. It'd be stupid and illogical to cut him this year anyway you psycho. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

03-27-2017, 05:30 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Defense Defense Defense Originally Posted by jnormand Dude you've lost your mind. That is absolutely ridiculous. When and where have you ever seen that they're buddies? I've seen nor heard nothing of the such. And even if they were, who cares? Brees wouldn't be the reason they kept Fleener. It'd be stupid and illogical to cut him this year anyway you psycho. Psycho?

03-28-2017, 12:05 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Defense Defense Defense Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Psycho? hagan714 likes this.

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