Interesting stats on Mark Ingram

Seer1 · 05-15-2017, 07:19 AM

Although, remember in those days JP our draft picks were only worth about 10% of a real draft pick. That means he really only cost us 40% of a pick...

ChrisXVI · 05-15-2017, 07:41 AM

I don't understand criticizing him for where he was drafted or that we traded up to get him. He had no say in that and it wasn't his decision.

jeanpierre · 05-15-2017, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don't understand criticizing him for where he was drafted or that we traded up to get him. He had no say in that and it wasn't his decision.

Well, let me be clear as we've had this discussion in other threads...

I criticize the pick, not the player, and those reasons I laid out do not lay it all at his feet...

And he's developed into the RB this offense needs, but he wasn't the RB we needed nor should have spent those picks to acquire...

It's as much, if not more, a criticism of Payton/Loomis than Ingram; and I've updated the post to make that point clearer which y'all are right to point out...

K Major · 05-15-2017, 08:27 AM

Mark is top half of the league - borderline top 10 based on production, skills, salary etc. Not really sure why the debate on MI at this point. Maybe his initial struggles or the Alabama angle ??

Meanwhile, I'll continue to post Happy Gifs of Mark doing his thing enroute to the end zone and helping our team win

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Beastmode · 05-15-2017, 08:33 AM

I thought it was a good move. He dropped fairly far from where he was projected. He did struggle early on but that had more to do with play calling and turf toe. We kept sending him on dive runs and he said after drafted he is not that kind of RB but that is what we did anyway. Never understood why Payton forces players into roles like that but he is fairly consistent doing it.

WillMacKenzie · 05-15-2017, 08:46 AM

I think I'm tougher on him cause I really expect a lot out of him. He's getting there though, I think he'll have a nice year if Payton doesn't get the fever and abandon the run game

WillSaints81 · 05-16-2017, 08:15 PM

I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint.

Danno · 05-16-2017, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint.

Wasn't a better back. History proves it.

ChrisXVI · 05-16-2017, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint.

That's absurd. You can't possibly believe that.

jnormand · 05-16-2017, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint.

Are you kidding me? Last year Ivory played in 11 games and didn't sniff 450 yards rushing.

How in the hell is Ivory a better back?

You've got some seriously misguided logic man. I just don't understand.

05-15-2017, 07:19 AM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Although, remember in those days JP our draft picks were only worth about 10% of a real draft pick. That means he really only cost us 40% of a pick...

05-15-2017, 07:41 AM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram I don't understand criticizing him for where he was drafted or that we traded up to get him. He had no say in that and it wasn't his decision. AsylumGuido, dizzle88 and K Major like this.

05-15-2017, 08:20 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don't understand criticizing him for where he was drafted or that we traded up to get him. He had no say in that and it wasn't his decision. Well, let me be clear as we've had this discussion in other threads... I criticize the pick, not the player, and those reasons I laid out do not lay it all at his feet... And he's developed into the RB this offense needs, but he wasn't the RB we needed nor should have spent those picks to acquire... It's as much, if not more, a criticism of Payton/Loomis than Ingram; and I've updated the post to make that point clearer which y'all are right to point out... SmashMouth likes this.
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05-15-2017, 08:27 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Mark is top half of the league - borderline top 10 based on production, skills, salary etc. Not really sure why the debate on MI at this point. Maybe his initial struggles or the Alabama angle ?? Meanwhile, I'll continue to post Happy Gifs of Mark doing his thing enroute to the end zone and helping our team win .

05-15-2017, 08:33 AM	#5
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram I thought it was a good move. He dropped fairly far from where he was projected. He did struggle early on but that had more to do with play calling and turf toe. We kept sending him on dive runs and he said after drafted he is not that kind of RB but that is what we did anyway. Never understood why Payton forces players into roles like that but he is fairly consistent doing it.
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05-15-2017, 08:46 AM	#6
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram I think I'm tougher on him cause I really expect a lot out of him. He's getting there though, I think he'll have a nice year if Payton doesn't get the fever and abandon the run game

05-16-2017, 08:15 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,276	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint.

05-16-2017, 08:17 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint. Wasn't a better back. History proves it.

05-16-2017, 08:25 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint. That's absurd. You can't possibly believe that. jnormand and Danno like this.

05-16-2017, 08:28 PM	#10
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'll give you a better back.........Chris Ivory. Imagine if he was still a saint. Are you kidding me? Last year Ivory played in 11 games and didn't sniff 450 yards rushing. How in the hell is Ivory a better back? You've got some seriously misguided logic man. I just don't understand. Danno and turbo_dog like this.

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