Interesting stats on Mark Ingram

WhoDat!656 · 05-14-2017, 09:38 AM

I didn't know this

Ingram is 3rd all time in Saints history for rushing yards. He needs 30 yards to eclipse George Rogers for 2nd in franchise history. He has a legitimate shot at catching Deuce McAllister for the top spot eventually, needing 1,858 more rushing yards. His 5.1 yards per carry last year is best all time in franchise history, single season, for a 200 carry minimum.

If you drop the carry minimum to 100, it’s still 4th best all time in franchise history, behind only Hokie Gajan, Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory.

Wanna know the list of running backs in the NFL that have more rushing yards than Mark Ingram the last three years? DeMarco Murray, Le’Veon Bell, LeSean McCoy, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore. That’s it. He’s 6th in the entire league in rushing yards the last three years. I had one fan tell me just today on twitter that Mark Ingram “goes down way too easily”. He led the NFL in yards after contact last year. I guess that means every single other back in the NFL sucks even worse when it comes to power?

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dizzle88 · 05-14-2017, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I didn't know this

Ingram is 3rd all time in Saints history for rushing yards. He needs 30 yards to eclipse George Rogers for 2nd in franchise history. He has a legitimate shot at catching Deuce McAllister for the top spot eventually, needing 1,858 more rushing yards. His 5.1 yards per carry last year is best all time in franchise history, single season, for a 200 carry minimum.

If you drop the carry minimum to 100, it’s still 4th best all time in franchise history, behind only Hokie Gajan, Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory.

Wanna know the list of running backs in the NFL that have more rushing yards than Mark Ingram the last three years? DeMarco Murray, Le’Veon Bell, LeSean McCoy, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore. That’s it. He’s 6th in the entire league in rushing yards the last three years. I had one fan tell me just today on twitter that Mark Ingram “goes down way too easily”. He led the NFL in yards after contact last year. I guess that means every single other back in the NFL sucks even worse when it comes to power?

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I personally think Ingram is phenomenal, I think he is the best all round player we've had since PT23.

Never in trouble, always gives 100%, catches just as well as he runs.

stickman · 05-14-2017, 10:03 AM

I know Ingram doesn't get a lot of love from Saints fans, but, I just keep thinking of Sean Payton saying that the only thing holding Mark Ingram back is Sean Payton.

That tells you he isn't going anywhere. Payton loves him.

ChrisXVI · 05-14-2017, 10:07 AM

It's time for Ingram to get the respect he deserves. The excessive criticism he gets from fans is totally unwarranted. He's done nothing but give 100% and be a total role model off the field.

WhoDat!656 · 05-14-2017, 10:31 AM

IMO, this play is why so-called Saints fans have no love for Ingram.

Packers D stuffs Mark Ingram at Goal Line vs Saints at Lambeau 9/8/11 - YouTube

dizzle88 · 05-14-2017, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

IMO, this play is why so-called Saints fans have no love for Ingram.

Packers D stuffs Mark Ingram at Goal Line vs Saints at Lambeau 9/8/11 - YouTube

Rookie season, awful play call by Payton and terrible push by the O line.

jeanpierre · 05-14-2017, 10:56 AM

No, first round picks make it happen; and Ingram has only recently played like a first round pick...

But Payton should've put the ball in the hands of his best player - Brees...

foreverfan · 05-14-2017, 11:17 AM

WillMacKenzie · 05-14-2017, 11:20 AM

It's about expectation vs reality. You can pull out all the stats you want, facts don't tell the whole story of how perceptions are formed.

And it's about perception.

My perception is that he doesn't have the best vision, he misses holes so big that you could drive an 18 wheeler through them. Secondly, apart from some long runs, he's not consistently making those yards after contact in the way PT23 could. You're supposed to take the extremes into account when dealing with averages.

If he were that great on 3rd down, why isn't he THE guy SP goes to in must-get short yardage situations? Usually it's Brees throwing from the shotgun, cause Ingram's burned him too many times.

He's lucky he's actually begin to perform, a lot of players don't get 3 year cushions to get up to speed.

There are worse, but certainly he's not lived up to his *potential*

Rugby Saint II · 05-14-2017, 12:55 PM

He has lived up to his potential. It just took a long time. The first year or two it was the turf toe that held him back. After that he dedicated himself to his craft and has become a complete back.

It is not his fault that we haven't had a good O-line in several years. It's not his fault that Sean Payton likes the running back by committee approach. It's not his fault Sean Payton gave up two draft picks to get him.

He picks up blocks really well and catches out of the back field just as well as 90% of NFL running backs if not better.

We will see the best from Mark Ingram this year between his motivation from AP and the improved O-line along with a battered and fatigued defense after four quarters that should allow longer runs.

Edit: 5.1 yards per carry ain't half bad either............just sayin'

05-14-2017, 09:38 AM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Interesting stats on Mark Ingram I didn't know this Ingram is 3rd all time in Saints history for rushing yards. He needs 30 yards to eclipse George Rogers for 2nd in franchise history. He has a legitimate shot at catching Deuce McAllister for the top spot eventually, needing 1,858 more rushing yards. His 5.1 yards per carry last year is best all time in franchise history, single season, for a 200 carry minimum. If you drop the carry minimum to 100, it’s still 4th best all time in franchise history, behind only Hokie Gajan, Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory. Wanna know the list of running backs in the NFL that have more rushing yards than Mark Ingram the last three years? DeMarco Murray, Le’Veon Bell, LeSean McCoy, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore. That’s it. He’s 6th in the entire league in rushing yards the last three years. I had one fan tell me just today on twitter that Mark Ingram “goes down way too easily”. He led the NFL in yards after contact last year. I guess that means every single other back in the NFL sucks even worse when it comes to power? The Mark Ingram hate has to stop \| The Saints Nation SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand, turbo_dog and 6 others like this.
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05-14-2017, 09:52 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I didn't know this Ingram is 3rd all time in Saints history for rushing yards. He needs 30 yards to eclipse George Rogers for 2nd in franchise history. He has a legitimate shot at catching Deuce McAllister for the top spot eventually, needing 1,858 more rushing yards. His 5.1 yards per carry last year is best all time in franchise history, single season, for a 200 carry minimum. If you drop the carry minimum to 100, it’s still 4th best all time in franchise history, behind only Hokie Gajan, Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory. Wanna know the list of running backs in the NFL that have more rushing yards than Mark Ingram the last three years? DeMarco Murray, Le’Veon Bell, LeSean McCoy, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore. That’s it. He’s 6th in the entire league in rushing yards the last three years. I had one fan tell me just today on twitter that Mark Ingram “goes down way too easily”. He led the NFL in yards after contact last year. I guess that means every single other back in the NFL sucks even worse when it comes to power? The Mark Ingram hate has to stop \| The Saints Nation I personally think Ingram is phenomenal, I think he is the best all round player we've had since PT23. Never in trouble, always gives 100%, catches just as well as he runs. jnormand likes this.

05-14-2017, 10:03 AM	#3
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,688	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram I know Ingram doesn't get a lot of love from Saints fans, but, I just keep thinking of Sean Payton saying that the only thing holding Mark Ingram back is Sean Payton. That tells you he isn't going anywhere. Payton loves him.

05-14-2017, 10:07 AM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram It's time for Ingram to get the respect he deserves. The excessive criticism he gets from fans is totally unwarranted. He's done nothing but give 100% and be a total role model off the field. jnormand and darksoul35 like this.

05-14-2017, 10:41 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 IMO, this play is why so-called Saints fans have no love for Ingram. Packers D stuffs Mark Ingram at Goal Line vs Saints at Lambeau 9/8/11 - YouTube Rookie season, awful play call by Payton and terrible push by the O line.

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05-14-2017, 10:56 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram No, first round picks make it happen; and Ingram has only recently played like a first round pick... But Payton should've put the ball in the hands of his best player - Brees... MatthewT likes this.

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05-14-2017, 11:20 AM	#9
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram It's about expectation vs reality. You can pull out all the stats you want, facts don't tell the whole story of how perceptions are formed. And it's about perception. My perception is that he doesn't have the best vision, he misses holes so big that you could drive an 18 wheeler through them. Secondly, apart from some long runs, he's not consistently making those yards after contact in the way PT23 could. You're supposed to take the extremes into account when dealing with averages. If he were that great on 3rd down, why isn't he THE guy SP goes to in must-get short yardage situations? Usually it's Brees throwing from the shotgun, cause Ingram's burned him too many times. He's lucky he's actually begin to perform, a lot of players don't get 3 year cushions to get up to speed. There are worse, but certainly he's not lived up to his potential MatthewT likes this.

05-14-2017, 12:55 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Interesting stats on Mark Ingram He has lived up to his potential. It just took a long time. The first year or two it was the turf toe that held him back. After that he dedicated himself to his craft and has become a complete back. It is not his fault that we haven't had a good O-line in several years. It's not his fault that Sean Payton likes the running back by committee approach. It's not his fault Sean Payton gave up two draft picks to get him. He picks up blocks really well and catches out of the back field just as well as 90% of NFL running backs if not better. We will see the best from Mark Ingram this year between his motivation from AP and the improved O-line along with a battered and fatigued defense after four quarters that should allow longer runs. Edit: 5.1 yards per carry ain't half bad either............just sayin' jnormand and dizzle88 like this.
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