Playoffs or bust?

dizzle88 · 06-21-2017, 05:31 PM

I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?"

In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013.

The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons.

I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures.

No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected.

You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre.

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2017, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?"

In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013.

The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons.

I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures.

No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected.

You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre.

So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?

dizzle88 · 06-21-2017, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?

I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.

spkb25 · 06-21-2017, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.

And that's what it is all about. You churn 3 straight 7-9 seasons, 4 of the last 5 seasons, you're on your third d coord and set a record for dead money. You don't brush that away as if it doesn't exist, didn't exist, etc. If we were making good moves those things would not have happened.

If as a fan you choose to pump sunshine and rainbows I don't have a problem with it. I think when it becomes an issue is when you go around attacking the other members of the board for talking about facts and why they're hesitant to get sucked in again and not really look at who this team is, etc. Pump sunshine all day if it tickles your fancy, but leave those with a critical view of the team to share their thoughts without being bothered.

spkb25 · 06-21-2017, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.

One thing I can say for sure is I specifically remember the dude and dizzle still on the board last year during the losing. We stuck with the team through the entire year, ups and downs!

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2017, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

One thing I can say for sure is I specifically remember the dude and dizzle still on the board last year during the losing. We stuck with the team through the entire year, ups and downs!

Bullcrap. Those two weeks I didn't post was because you posted nothing but negative venom. Non-stop. You didn't stick with the team. You lambasted them constantly. You went on and on about how they sucked. You pointed out everything that you felt was wrong with them.

Yeah, You supported them.

Sad.

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2017, 09:03 PM

You aren't sticking WITH the team now. You are sticking it to them. All you do is run them down.

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2017, 09:08 PM

Oh, and, of course, once again, for the umpteenth time you post ...

7-9 for the last 3 years and 4 of the last 5!

Is that the only tune you know? Get over it dude. You post the same tired crap three or four times a day. Holy crap you get old.

foreverfan · 06-21-2017, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You aren't sticking WITH the team now. You are sticking it to them. All you do is run them down.

The Dude · 06-21-2017, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Bullcrap. Those two weeks I didn't post was because you posted nothing but negative venom. Non-stop. You didn't stick with the team. You lambasted them constantly. You went on and on about how they sucked. You pointed out everything that you felt was wrong with them.

Yeah, You supported them.

Sad.

Sice we are posting such "negative venom" right now why aren't you gone? It's crap, you left because you are a fair weather fan and can't handle reality.

06-21-2017, 05:31 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,535	Re: Playoffs or bust? I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?" In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013. The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons. I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures. No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected. You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre. jnormand and spkb25 like this.
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06-21-2017, 06:04 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?" In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013. The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons. I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures. No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected. You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre. So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?

06-21-2017, 06:22 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,535	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz? I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort. I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.

06-21-2017, 07:12 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort. I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie. And that's what it is all about. You churn 3 straight 7-9 seasons, 4 of the last 5 seasons, you're on your third d coord and set a record for dead money. You don't brush that away as if it doesn't exist, didn't exist, etc. If we were making good moves those things would not have happened. If as a fan you choose to pump sunshine and rainbows I don't have a problem with it. I think when it becomes an issue is when you go around attacking the other members of the board for talking about facts and why they're hesitant to get sucked in again and not really look at who this team is, etc. Pump sunshine all day if it tickles your fancy, but leave those with a critical view of the team to share their thoughts without being bothered. dizzle88 and The Dude like this.
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06-21-2017, 08:54 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort. I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie. One thing I can say for sure is I specifically remember the dude and dizzle still on the board last year during the losing. We stuck with the team through the entire year, ups and downs! dizzle88 likes this.

06-21-2017, 09:00 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 One thing I can say for sure is I specifically remember the dude and dizzle still on the board last year during the losing. We stuck with the team through the entire year, ups and downs! Bullcrap. Those two weeks I didn't post was because you posted nothing but negative venom. Non-stop. You didn't stick with the team. You lambasted them constantly. You went on and on about how they sucked. You pointed out everything that you felt was wrong with them. Yeah, You supported them. Sad.

06-21-2017, 09:03 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Playoffs or bust? You aren't sticking WITH the team now. You are sticking it to them. All you do is run them down.

06-21-2017, 09:08 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Playoffs or bust? Oh, and, of course, once again, for the umpteenth time you post ... 7-9 for the last 3 years and 4 of the last 5! Is that the only tune you know? Get over it dude. You post the same tired crap three or four times a day. Holy crap you get old.

06-21-2017, 09:16 PM	#9
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You aren't sticking WITH the team now. You are sticking it to them. All you do is run them down. spkb25 and AsylumGuido like this.

06-21-2017, 10:40 PM	#10
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Bullcrap. Those two weeks I didn't post was because you posted nothing but negative venom. Non-stop. You didn't stick with the team. You lambasted them constantly. You went on and on about how they sucked. You pointed out everything that you felt was wrong with them. Yeah, You supported them. Sad. Sice we are posting such "negative venom" right now why aren't you gone? It's crap, you left because you are a fair weather fan and can't handle reality. spkb25 likes this.
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