Saints Fire Orthopedists

neugey · 08-16-2017, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by jrab01

Personally, I'm not surprised.

A few years back, I was injured and needed to have a third surgery on my right knee. The doctor that completed my first two surgeries suggested I consult with Deryk Jones. As soon as I met him, I felt like I was visiting with the Morris Bart of Orthopedic Surgeons.

His diagnosis and recommendation was so vastly different (and WRONG) than what I had already discussed I RAN out of his office.

Ultimately I saw a third doctor, who couldn't believe what Dr. Jones had indicated was the problem. Everything's been fine ever since. Glad I didn't trust DJ.

That is one hell of a first post! Been lurking?

jrab01 · 08-16-2017, 11:46 AM

I was waiting to post something with substance!

I noticed after the fact that my account was 4 years old with no posts.

jnormand · 08-16-2017, 09:15 AM

What a mess. Glad it's done but wtf took so long? Now get someone dependable for crying out loud.

spkb25 · 08-16-2017, 09:19 AM

A lot of us have been discussing some real issues with these people or perceived. Guess we weren't far off

ChrisXVI · 08-16-2017, 09:28 AM

They had this dude walking around with a fractured fibula telling him "It's just a bruise, man up!"

73Saint · 08-16-2017, 09:33 AM

Well, well, well. Whaddya know. Team doctors mis-diagnosed an injury. Seems to me lots of folks here have been scratching their heads in regards to our medical staff.

WillMacKenzie · 08-16-2017, 09:57 AM

One call, that's all!

Initial Dx wrong b/c of suboptimal image quality(swelling), but due to FO pressure, had to Dx SOMETHING, later imaging reveals fracture, team has to fire ortho to save face because they had already run with it.

Sounds about right. Move long overdue anyway though.

AsylumGuido · 08-16-2017, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

One call, that's all!

Initial Dx wrong b/c of suboptimal image quality(swelling), but due to FO pressure, had to Dx SOMETHING, later imaging reveals fracture, team has to fire ortho to save face because they had already run with it.

Sounds about right. Move long overdue anyway though.

I can see this scenario. What I read on stress fractures versus bone contusions mentioned the difficulty in an appropriate diagnosis until the enema has subsided. Although, you would expect the doctors to error on the conservative side and treat it as a fracture until they could tell for sure. I could see them being pressured into a premature decision. But, that is on them for giving in if it was the case.

WillMacKenzie · 08-16-2017, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I can see this scenario. What I read on stress fractures versus bone contusions mentioned the difficulty in an appropriate diagnosis until the enema has subsided. Although, you would expect the doctors to error on the conservative side and treated it as a fracture until they could tell for sure. I could see them being pressured into a premature decision. But, that is on them for giving in if it was the case.

Yeah I kinda said it tongue and cheek, playing devil's advocate, but I've seen real scenerios like it before. It's unfortunate all three ways, Ochsner, Delvin, and the Saints.

I know there's pressure but you have to do the right thing -- but then Payton's also under pressure to win, and the injury thing is really bugging him.

So, really it's hard to point at one party saying, "everything's egregious!" when we can't possibly know all sides of the story.

Lord_Saint83 · 08-16-2017, 10:12 AM

Those doctors must of took a page from james woods character on any given sunday or are the most incompetent doctors in sports. I can see former saints players suing the team if they were diagnosed by those clowns if they couldn't play anymore from a misdiagnosed injury that got worse.

08-16-2017, 10:19 AM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists Originally Posted by jrab01 Personally, I'm not surprised. A few years back, I was injured and needed to have a third surgery on my right knee. The doctor that completed my first two surgeries suggested I consult with Deryk Jones. As soon as I met him, I felt like I was visiting with the Morris Bart of Orthopedic Surgeons. His diagnosis and recommendation was so vastly different (and WRONG) than what I had already discussed I RAN out of his office. Ultimately I saw a third doctor, who couldn't believe what Dr. Jones had indicated was the problem. Everything's been fine ever since. Glad I didn't trust DJ. That is one hell of a first post! Been lurking? mleg1972 and jrab01 like this.

08-16-2017, 11:46 AM	#2
jrab01 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists I was waiting to post something with substance! I noticed after the fact that my account was 4 years old with no posts. neugey, Crusader, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.
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08-16-2017, 09:15 AM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,781	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists What a mess. Glad it's done but wtf took so long? Now get someone dependable for crying out loud. spkb25 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists A lot of us have been discussing some real issues with these people or perceived. Guess we weren't far off turbo_dog, Barry from MS, Utah_Saint and 1 others like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists Twitter They had this dude walking around with a fractured fibula telling him "It's just a bruise, man up!"

08-16-2017, 09:33 AM	#6
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists Well, well, well. Whaddya know. Team doctors mis-diagnosed an injury. Seems to me lots of folks here have been scratching their heads in regards to our medical staff. spkb25 and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-16-2017, 09:57 AM	#7
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists One call, that's all! Initial Dx wrong b/c of suboptimal image quality(swelling), but due to FO pressure, had to Dx SOMETHING, later imaging reveals fracture, team has to fire ortho to save face because they had already run with it. Sounds about right. Move long overdue anyway though. AsylumGuido and halloween 65 like this.

08-16-2017, 10:45 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie One call, that's all! Initial Dx wrong b/c of suboptimal image quality(swelling), but due to FO pressure, had to Dx SOMETHING, later imaging reveals fracture, team has to fire ortho to save face because they had already run with it. Sounds about right. Move long overdue anyway though. I can see this scenario. What I read on stress fractures versus bone contusions mentioned the difficulty in an appropriate diagnosis until the enema has subsided. Although, you would expect the doctors to error on the conservative side and treat it as a fracture until they could tell for sure. I could see them being pressured into a premature decision. But, that is on them for giving in if it was the case. WillMacKenzie likes this.
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08-16-2017, 11:53 AM	#9
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I can see this scenario. What I read on stress fractures versus bone contusions mentioned the difficulty in an appropriate diagnosis until the enema has subsided. Although, you would expect the doctors to error on the conservative side and treated it as a fracture until they could tell for sure. I could see them being pressured into a premature decision. But, that is on them for giving in if it was the case. Yeah I kinda said it tongue and cheek, playing devil's advocate, but I've seen real scenerios like it before. It's unfortunate all three ways, Ochsner, Delvin, and the Saints. I know there's pressure but you have to do the right thing -- but then Payton's also under pressure to win, and the injury thing is really bugging him. So, really it's hard to point at one party saying, "everything's egregious!" when we can't possibly know all sides of the story.

08-16-2017, 10:12 AM	#10
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints Fire Orthopedists Those doctors must of took a page from james woods character on any given sunday or are the most incompetent doctors in sports. I can see former saints players suing the team if they were diagnosed by those clowns if they couldn't play anymore from a misdiagnosed injury that got worse. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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