Compared to today's offensive line, yes, Brooks had a better one. Compared to O-lines Drew had during a 3 or 4 year run, beginning in '08, when he had Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, Jonathan Goodwin and Jon Stinchcomb; Drew's line was at least as good, if not better than what Brooks had. Not as strong at tackle, but good enough, and the interior line Drew had was ridiculously good.

But this isn't a comparison of Drew to Aaron Brooks.

But you mentioned Drew would have won back to back to back Super Bowls if he had Aaron's O-line and defense... Obviously in order for a team to have a chance without really good QB play, they must have a strong O-line and defense, and that's the point. Heck, we've seen just how good this team is WITH an elite QB, but no defense, haven't we? In order to stay at least competitive without your starter, you MUST have a good defense and a backup QB who is competent enough. But a lot of people would have you believe that without Drew there is no hope, period. People are so used to having Drew that they forgot that not every winning team has had an elite QB.

"Not as strong at tackle"? Not even close. And Fontenot was a better center than Goodwin. Drew had better guards, but that is not a wash. That o-line was the best o-line in Saints history. If you want to debate o-lines, that's another thread.


Ok? Who's comparing them?



At this point, I have no idea what your actual point is, but if all of that was meant as a counterpoint to my statement that Drew would've won more SB's had he had that team, are you going to debate that a Drew Brees with an 8th ranked defense would not have taken the Saints to multiple SB's?

I know hope is the last thing to die, but if Drew goes down, people are going to quickly find out how not-so-good many players are in offense.

YOU made the comparison of Drew to Aaron

in a clear sign that the point some of us were discussing had completely escaped you.

Drew HAD a top ten defense in 2010,How'd that end? We had the 4th ranked defense is Rob Ryan's first year here. How'd that go?

Nobody is saying Aaron was a better QB than Drew Brees. You're the only person I see in here who would even make that out to be part of the conversation.

But your opinion that Aaron had more to work with doesn't hold much water, in MY opinion.

As for your offensive line comparison;

I did not do such a thing. I was comparing the teams, not the QB's,


I wasn't trying to jump into whatever you were discussing. I specifically responded to a point Beastmode made.


If I remember correctly, Seattle and Marshawn Lynch ran all over that alleged 4th ranked defense, and scored 41 points, including a run at the tail end of the game that came to epitomize "beastmode" and is now part of every highlight rushing reel ever.


And yet, I didn't. Again, I was comparing the TEAMS, not the QB's.


And again with Aaron.. whatever...


It's just a theory

When you said Drew would have won back to back to back SB's with the team Aaron had you were absolutely, 100%,

Whatever, dude.

I replied to Beastmode's comment about how good the teams were. If you want to read something else, be my guest.

YOU made the comparison of Drew to Aaron, in a clear sign that the point some of us were discussing had completely escaped you. I simply made a case to counter your statement that Aaron was surrounded with more, and that Drew would have won "back to back to back" SB's.

Drew HAD a top ten defense in 2010, as I just pointed out. How'd that end? We had the 4th ranked defense is Rob Ryan's first year here. How'd that go? Nobody is saying Aaron was a better QB than Drew Brees. You're the only person I see in here who would even make that out to be part of the conversation. But your opinion that Aaron had more to work with doesn't hold much water, in MY opinion.

As for your offensive line comparison; what evidence do you have that Fontenot was better than Goodwin? Because you said so? At best they were about the same, but having watched both of them play, Goodwin appeared more athletic and able to cover more ground. But, I will just call that a wash. Naeole was good, not great. Evans and Nicks were THE two best guards in the entire league when they were here together. Wally Williams, with all due respect to him, just wasn't anywhere near their class.

At tackle, Drew had Jon Stinchcomb, who developed into a pro bowl right tackle, and while he wasn't as good as Turley, he was not a big drop off during his prime years. The only obvious drop off was at left tackle. Drew didn't have anyone like Willie Roaf, but when you look at the totality of what he had at O-line, I think it was easily as good, if not better, than that line of the early 2000's.

We know Drew makes some players look better than they are. But it's been proven if you build your team correctly, you don't HAVE to have an elite QB. So for all the defeatists who don't care about the backup QB, because they think no Drew is "give up" time, I would just like for them to think about these things before they poo poo on everyone who takes a legitimate interest in who our backup will be. Needless to say, we'd all much rather have Drew in the equation.