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2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Old 08-18-2018, 03:38 PM   #411
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (5) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201),
32 - Jonathan Williams, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 38 - Terrance West (FA 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)
WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA), 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018), 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill,
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)
WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, **15 - Josh Huff (RFC)

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, ***69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (3) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 34 - Justin Hardee, 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA), 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 15 WR Josh Huff (RFC) pending suspension of first two games of the 2018 NFL Season

***Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


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Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

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Old 08-19-2018, 12:19 PM   #412
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Clapp's performance will determine whether we keep eight (8) or nine (9) offensive linemen...

If Clapp is awesome, we keep eight and let LeRibeus geaux; if he's solid, still showing inexperience, we keep nine...

Ranking our offensive linemen - Unger, Ramczyk, Armstead, Peat, Warford, Bushrod, Clapp, Leonard, LeRibeus...
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George Iloka is available.
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Clapp's performance will determine whether we keep eight (8) or nine (9) offensive linemen...

If Clapp is awesome, we keep eight and let LeRibeus geaux; if he's solid, still showing inexperience, we keep nine...

Ranking our offensive linemen - Unger, Ramczyk, Armstead, Peat, Warford, Bushrod, Clapp, Leonard, LeRibeus...
Hmmmm..........that looks like the right order and not bad depth.
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George Iloka is available.
Saw that. He'd been graded in the mid-70s by PFF the past couple of years and was going into the third year of a five year/$30mil contract...

Guess the Bengals didn't feel he was worth the coin...

See us keeping four (4) safeties this year:

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell

With Natrell Jamerson has the CB/S/NB hybrid...

George is a big boy at 6' 4", but I wonder if he hasn't lost a step???
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Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Taking a stab at a 53-man roster projection at the mid-preseason point...

Offense (24)

QB 9 Drew Brees, 7 Taysom Hill, 12 Tom Savage

HB 41 Alvin Kamara, 32 Jonathan Williams, 33 Trey Edmunds, 30 Boston Scott

FB 42 Zach Line

WR 13 Michael Thomas, 19 Ted Ginn, Jr, 81 Cameron Meredith, 10 Tre’Quan Smith, 87 Brandon Tate

TE 82 Ben Watson, 89 Josh Hill, 85 Dan Arnold

LT 72 Terron Armstead, 74 Jermon Bushrod

LG 75 Andrus Peat

C 60 Max Unger, 64 Will Clapp

RG 67 Larry Warford

RT 71 Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 Rick Leonard

Defense (26)

WDE 57 Alex Okafor, 92 Marcus Davenport

1T 95 Tyeler Davison

3T 98 Sheldon Rankins, 93 David Onyemata, 68 Devaroe Lawrence

SDE 94 Cameron Jordan, 91 Trey Hendrickson, 70 Mitchell Loewen

WLB 56 DeMario Davis, 47 Alex Anzalone

MLB 51 Manti Te’o, 52 Craig Robertson, 54 Nate Stupar

SLB 53 AJ Klein

CB 23 Marshon Lattimore, 20 Ken Crawley, 34 Justin Hardee, 27 Natrell Jamerson

NCB 21 Patrick Robinson, 37 Arthur Maulet

FS 43 Marcus Williams, 31 Chris Banjo, 39 Kamrin Moore

SS 29 Kurt Coleman, 24 Vonn Bell
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Saw that. He'd been graded in the mid-70s by PFF the past couple of years and was going into the third year of a five year/$30mil contract...

Guess the Bengals didn't feel he was worth the coin...

See us keeping four (4) safeties this year:

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell

With Natrell Jamerson has the CB/S/NB hybrid...

George is a big boy at 6' 4", but I wonder if he hasn't lost a step???
I saw that last year he graded out with a 77.7. I’d cut Banjo and roll with Iloka. Von Bell can slide back to Free. Iloka is a better strong safety than Kurt Coleman and Von Bell in my opinion. I think Iloka is the final piece to the puzzle of a top 10 defense.
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I saw that last year he graded out with a 77.7. I’d cut Banjo and roll with Iloka. Von Bell can slide back to Free. Iloka is a better strong safety than Kurt Coleman and Von Bell in my opinion. I think Iloka is the final piece to the puzzle of a top 10 defense.
Maybe. My concern is whether Iloka lost a step (i.e. age, undisclosed injury) or was it strictly a numbers game as it often is with Mike Brown and the Bengals...

The reason I like the Coleman signing so much is I don't see much of a future for big strong safeties and two-down thumper linebacker in a pass-happy league...

That's why there's such a premium on guys like Polomalu; if Iloka can no longer cover, then it's like Kenny V, Harper and it becomes a problematic matchup headache...
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Taking a stab at a 53-man roster projection at the mid-preseason point...

Offense (24)

QB 9 Drew Brees, 7 Taysom Hill, 12 Tom Savage

HB 41 Alvin Kamara, 32 Jonathan Williams, 33 Trey Edmunds, 30 Boston Scott

FB 42 Zach Line

WR 13 Michael Thomas, 19 Ted Ginn, Jr, 81 Cameron Meredith, 10 Tre’Quan Smith, 87 Brandon Tate

TE 82 Ben Watson, 89 Josh Hill, 85 Dan Arnold

LT 72 Terron Armstead, 74 Jermon Bushrod

LG 75 Andrus Peat

C 60 Max Unger, 64 Will Clapp

RG 67 Larry Warford

RT 71 Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 Rick Leonard

Defense (26)

WDE 57 Alex Okafor, 92 Marcus Davenport

1T 95 Tyeler Davison

3T 98 Sheldon Rankins, 93 David Onyemata, 68 Devaroe Lawrence

SDE 94 Cameron Jordan, 91 Trey Hendrickson, 70 Mitchell Loewen

WLB 56 DeMario Davis, 47 Alex Anzalone

MLB 51 Manti Te’o, 52 Craig Robertson, 54 Nate Stupar

SLB 53 AJ Klein

CB 23 Marshon Lattimore, 20 Ken Crawley, 34 Justin Hardee, 27 Natrell Jamerson

NCB 21 Patrick Robinson, 37 Arthur Maulet

FS 43 Marcus Williams, 31 Chris Banjo, 39 Kamrin Moore

SS 29 Kurt Coleman, 24 Vonn Bell
Agree about QB, we're keeping three; Savage is too much a check-down specialist, eliminating our deep speed advantage; Hill needs more live round reps...

Hill could eliminate Savage from the equation with a bounce-back performance; but I think the Saints play it close to the vest on this one...

At RB, agree that Scott, Williams make the roster; disagree about FB, as it's Edmunds OR Line, not both...

Right on-board with you at Tight End, and I wouldn't be surprised if late-add John Phillips or a TE - To Be Named is a fourth TE; Hooman is done, not available...

Offensive line looks right, with Bushrod first out behind Mr. Glass, Peat; Clapp backing Warford, Unger; and Leonard is coming on late...

DE is right as well; Kikaha is a 4-3 OLB and should have been traded two seasons ago; Payton & Co. really screwed him and us by not moving him...

Would really like to keep another NT for goal line packages; but on second thought Onyemata and/or Lawrence could fill-in; this is gonna be toughest of cuts...

The more I look at LBer, the more I see only six making the roster; we're seeing more and more 5-2 and nickel than 4-3 base, but you've got the right six...

Jumper needs more work and I was surprised to see him moved to OLB as he's been a Mike LBer in college; Practice Squad candidate...

Jayrone had his PreSeason moment; Cardinals were ready for him and he was neutralized as has been his MO...

Don't see Kamrin Moore making the active roster - too far behind, still nicked up; sneak him on practice squad and develop him for later...

That leaves P.J. Williams vs Arthur Maulet; don't know why but P.J. always plays down to competition, even though he has more physical talent...

Maulet has really gotten exposed for his height in the Pre-Season games and that's why it comes down to Maulet vs Hardee and I'd take the bigger guy...

Hardee has shown amazing progress trusting the coaches with the position change and rewarding them with much improved play; also, a plus Special Teamer...

Really like your post...
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