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44Champs 04-27-2018 08:46 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
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Originally Posted by Real Saint (Post 800045)
This guy will be a BUST.

Nice 6th post /

jeanpierre 04-27-2018 09:38 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 800152)
I get it, for several reasons
1. Win now, obviously

2. After Drew we should have a scary good defense (we'll need it)

3. He was the 2nd best DE in the draft

4. After the last couple of drafts, we are loaded with young talented prospects. Losing a draft pick doesn't hurt as much.

5. Our coaches know this kid, and his College coach well. We have a real good feel for his potential.

6. Our D-line coach, Ryan Nielson is notorious for developing young DL players

Good Points in why the selection was made.

jnormand 04-27-2018 09:41 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 800140)
The coach is why I like Breeland Speaks DE from Ole Miss in the 4th. We might not do it now because of Marcus but it can never hurt to have too many. Competition is good and makes them hungry!

I respectfully hope not. We've got like 9 already. And we've drafted 4 of them. And don't we use Kikaha more as a DE than a LB? I hope the answer to DE is on the team by now for hell's sake.

We've got 9 DE's for two positions. By comparison, we 13 OL for five positions.

I get that many of them will be cut or PS, but I'm just saying. Let's get this DE hunt over with. God, I hope Davenport is the one.

73Saint 04-27-2018 09:49 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
I love the posts I'm seeing where folks are saying I love the pic but we should have offered less. LOL. Give me a break and put some faith in our FO. Or maybe give yourself a little less credit.

DO YOU REALLY THINK THESE GUYS DON"T KNOW HOW TO NEGOTIATE?! They know what they're doing, which is why they are where they are.

K Major 04-27-2018 10:08 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
Plays the run well, true DE size and athleticism. Physical beast. True pass rushers are very hard to find. Coach Neilson has a serious player to work with.

Damn the expense.

st thomas 04-27-2018 10:13 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 800090)



Listen to dunc and holder take on m Davenport at the end of segment dunc says Payton is stewing on the sidelines when the opponents have all day to throw the ball always in Dennis Allen face to call something to fix the time they have throwing Payton was fixated on getting help for cam jorden and company

Papa Voodoo 04-27-2018 10:16 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
A lot of folks were upset about both Lattimore and Kamara last year. They aren't now. Any player can be a bust. Is he Clowney or Mingo? We shall see.

Danno 04-27-2018 10:31 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
It should be noted that most of the negatives we're reading about Davenport are about what it cost us to acquire him, not whether or not he's a great pick for us.

I think the consensus is that we got a fantastic prospect at a crucial position which also happens to be a need for us.

We probably over-paid a little to get him, but thats certainly debatable.

Its my humble opinion that if we had numerous holes on our roster, we over-paid. But since we don't have glaring holes up and down this roster, we didn't over-pay.

Its the old Rebuild vs Re-load. We aren't rebuilding, we're re-loading and Davenport is a key piece of ammo.

The Dude 04-27-2018 10:34 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 800130)
Hard to say it’s a win-now approach when we draft a developmental pass rusher from a Conference USA school.

Exactly. He’s played against nobody’s and he’s from a nobody school. Reports on him say he is raw and will need to develop. I don’t love what we have up for him. At that price you want as close to a day one difference maker as you can get. Not just someone to use on third downs for a year until he gets it.
Especially givin Brees age and the fact we are in win now mode.
Next year might be to late.
Hope I am wrong. The FO did a great job last year but for several years prior they didn’t do that great.

To say they should have offered less is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Of course they offered less. Im also sure GB wanted more. It’s called NEGOTIATION. You don’t just take the first offer without countering

ChrisXVI 04-27-2018 10:36 AM

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 800164)
It should be noted that most of the negatives we're reading about Davenport are about what it cost us to acquire him, not whether or not he's a great pick for us.

I think the consensus is that we got a fantastic prospect at a crucial position which also happens to be a need for us.

We probably over-paid a little to get him, but thats certainly debatable.

Its my humble opinion that if we had numerous holes on our roster, we over-paid. But since we don't have glaring holes up and down this roster, we didn't over-pay.

Its the old Rebuild vs Re-load. We aren't rebuilding, we're re-loading and Davenport is a key piece of ammo.

You make a great point here Danno. Nobody talks about the actual player but rather the trade compensation. I’m guilty as well. All the draft gurus had Davenport as a top 15 player but for some reason giving up next year’s 1st makes him lesser of a player it seems. I don’t know... I’m pretty conflicted still.


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