Riddle me this:?

saintswhodi · 04-29-2005, 11:42 AM

Show me how many games Duece was 100% healthy but too fat and out of shape to play and I will call him a thief. Then show me Deuce or any other player in the NFL in the media buffet line before a game cause they were too useless to be able to play, and I will call them a thief. Good luck finding players that fit that description, but you have the whole NFL to work with. Should be fun to see what you come up with.

BrooksMustGo · 04-29-2005, 11:50 AM

Albert Connel is a theif. What Adrian McPhearson did was stealing.
All Sullivan has been guility of doing is being lazy and unmotivated.
I\'m such the \"extremist\".

I agree Billy, the entire \"theif\" discussion just clouds the issue.

The real issue with this thread seems more like this...

I\'m not sure why we are arguing the fine points of theft on a thread that looks to me like:
a means of propping up Brooks
by doing a hatchet job on McPherson
by equating him to Sullivan
whom everyone universally reviles.

I\'d be curious about why you brought up the topic of why Sullivan = McPherson?

GumboBC · 04-29-2005, 11:53 AM

saintwhodi --

I don\'t think Decue is a \"thief\". Nor do I think ANYone on the team is a \"thief\". I\'m not going to sit here and try to prove Deuce is a thief when I don\'t think he is a thief.

I made the silly comparison to make a point. And obviously it didn\'t get through.

Take Randy Moss for example. He quits on his team. Walks off the field. He certainly isn\'t paid to do that. But he isn\'t a \"thief\".

Calling someone a \"thief\" is WAY over-the-top.

I think anyone calling someone on the Saints a \"thief\" is just trying to make an extreme statement and get folks riled up.

In any case, my definition, and Webster\'s Dictionary, is much different than some of yall\'s definition.

[Edited on 29/4/2005 by GumboBC]

saintswhodi · 04-29-2005, 12:48 PM

saintwhodi --

I don\'t think Decue is a \"thief\".

I agree. Nuff said.

JKool · 04-29-2005, 07:23 PM

I... can\'t... resist:

I mean, if I wanted to call him a steaming pile a poo, would that generate the argument that a steaming pile of poo is actually smaller and different in color than Sullivan, has a different consistency and hopefully a different smell(though I have no proof of this last one). Also that Sullivan was not excreted from the bowels of animal or human(again no proof) and will not dry out and decompose and act as fertilizer? Jeez.

I just about wet myself from laughing when I read this. Nice work Whodi.

Although, you were the one who said \"literal\". You wouldn\'t say that Sully is literally poo, would you? You just meant \"metaphorically\", like with the poo.

saintswhodi · 04-29-2005, 10:20 PM

Yeah Kool, the poo was metaphorical, and I wanted to make you laugh.

But I still stand by the thief part.

WhoDat · 04-30-2005, 09:06 AM

:yourock:

ROFLMAO. I\'m with Kool, that was freaking hilarious.

The whole thief business is quintessential Billy arguing.

1. Start an argument on a topic and take a view that everyone will disagree with. Tell people to prove me wrong. \"Rip it apart guys!!\"

2. Get ripped apart.

3. Argue a bad position just to argue. Make ridiculous comparisons until...

4. You can redirect the conversation by focusing in on something a person said metaphorically and trying to construe it literally. Usually, this is something not relevant to the discussion.

5. Say that you\'re all really friends and that you never really believed what you were arguing all along - it was somebody else\'s idea.

GumboBC · 04-30-2005, 10:54 AM

WhoDat --

Now, we\'re back to talking about WHY folks say what they say.

I actually got this post off of another board. And it got me to thinking about players being given 2nd chances.

McPheason and Sullivan are both being given second chances by the Saints. So, that\'s what both have in common. Although it\'s for completely different reasons.

It\'s a valid point.

I really don\'t care if I\'m in the majority with my opinions or not.

If someone wants to make an \"extreme\" statement ... like Sullivan is a \"thief\", then I might make an \"extreme\" statement, like saying Deuce McAllister is a \"thief\", to make a point.

IMHO, saying Sullivan is a \"thief\" is an over-the-top statement which really never needing saying in the first place. Unless they just like making over-the-top statements.

[Edited on 30/4/2005 by GumboBC]

04-29-2005, 11:42 AM	#91
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Riddle me this:? Show me how many games Duece was 100% healthy but too fat and out of shape to play and I will call him a thief. Then show me Deuce or any other player in the NFL in the media buffet line before a game cause they were too useless to be able to play, and I will call them a thief. Good luck finding players that fit that description, but you have the whole NFL to work with. Should be fun to see what you come up with.

04-29-2005, 11:50 AM	#92
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Riddle me this:? Albert Connel is a theif. What Adrian McPhearson did was stealing. All Sullivan has been guility of doing is being lazy and unmotivated. I\'m such the \"extremist\". I agree Billy, the entire \"theif\" discussion just clouds the issue. The real issue with this thread seems more like this... I\'m not sure why we are arguing the fine points of theft on a thread that looks to me like: a means of propping up Brooks by doing a hatchet job on McPherson by equating him to Sullivan whom everyone universally reviles. I\'d be curious about why you brought up the topic of why Sullivan = McPherson?

04-29-2005, 11:53 AM	#93
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Riddle me this:? saintwhodi -- I don\'t think Decue is a \"thief\". Nor do I think ANYone on the team is a \"thief\". I\'m not going to sit here and try to prove Deuce is a thief when I don\'t think he is a thief. I made the silly comparison to make a point. And obviously it didn\'t get through. Take Randy Moss for example. He quits on his team. Walks off the field. He certainly isn\'t paid to do that. But he isn\'t a \"thief\". Calling someone a \"thief\" is WAY over-the-top. I think anyone calling someone on the Saints a \"thief\" is just trying to make an extreme statement and get folks riled up. In any case, my definition, and Webster\'s Dictionary, is much different than some of yall\'s definition. [Edited on 29/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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04-29-2005, 12:48 PM	#94
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Riddle me this:? saintwhodi -- I don\'t think Decue is a \"thief\". I agree. Nuff said.

04-29-2005, 07:23 PM	#95
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Riddle me this:? I... can\'t... resist: I mean, if I wanted to call him a steaming pile a poo, would that generate the argument that a steaming pile of poo is actually smaller and different in color than Sullivan, has a different consistency and hopefully a different smell(though I have no proof of this last one). Also that Sullivan was not excreted from the bowels of animal or human(again no proof) and will not dry out and decompose and act as fertilizer? Jeez. I just about wet myself from laughing when I read this. Nice work Whodi. Although, you were the one who said \"literal\". You wouldn\'t say that Sully is literally poo, would you? You just meant \"metaphorically\", like with the poo.

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04-29-2005, 10:20 PM	#96
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Riddle me this:? Yeah Kool, the poo was metaphorical, and I wanted to make you laugh. But I still stand by the thief part.

04-30-2005, 09:06 AM	#97
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Riddle me this:? :yourock: ROFLMAO. I\'m with Kool, that was freaking hilarious. The whole thief business is quintessential Billy arguing. 1. Start an argument on a topic and take a view that everyone will disagree with. Tell people to prove me wrong. \"Rip it apart guys!!\" 2. Get ripped apart. 3. Argue a bad position just to argue. Make ridiculous comparisons until... 4. You can redirect the conversation by focusing in on something a person said metaphorically and trying to construe it literally. Usually, this is something not relevant to the discussion. 5. Say that you\'re all really friends and that you never really believed what you were arguing all along - it was somebody else\'s idea.
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04-30-2005, 10:54 AM	#98
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Riddle me this:? WhoDat -- Now, we\'re back to talking about WHY folks say what they say. I actually got this post off of another board. And it got me to thinking about players being given 2nd chances. McPheason and Sullivan are both being given second chances by the Saints. So, that\'s what both have in common. Although it\'s for completely different reasons. It\'s a valid point. I really don\'t care if I\'m in the majority with my opinions or not. If someone wants to make an \"extreme\" statement ... like Sullivan is a \"thief\", then I might make an \"extreme\" statement, like saying Deuce McAllister is a \"thief\", to make a point. IMHO, saying Sullivan is a \"thief\" is an over-the-top statement which really never needing saying in the first place. Unless they just like making over-the-top statements. [Edited on 30/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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