This is similar to the global warming (please don’t start on this, it’s just a reference).

The lie being pushed is that somehow the stats are because of employer bias and that something can be done to change it.

Poll a thousand males and a thousand females and ask them.. Given a conflict between family/Home responsibility’s and career which one do you gravitate to? You’ll find that females have a much higher propensity to focus on the home and family while males gravitate towards work.

So two lawyers are married and have a child, the majority of the time the female will be the one who’s career gets put on hold.

If you need a study to believe that you are pretty clueless in regards to human nature.

I guess you missed the part about the numbers being based upon US Census Bureau data on males and females working similar full-time, year-round jobs.

FFS Guido I didn’t mis any parts. I’ll spell it out for you.

Dick and Jane work for Boeing both on the assembly line and started the same date 20 years ago. Bob has 20 years in that job, Judy has has two children in the last 20 years and too two years of for each. Judy missed 4 years with of pay raises.

Same full-time job, same company, same start date.

If she took two years off for each wouldn't that mean she only has 16 years in the company? Because if the company miraculously kept her own and let her have two years of maternity leave for each child instead of her leaving the company all together and then coming back she still would have gotten the raises just like everybody else right? I know maternity leave doesn't stop anybody from getting raises here in the hospital.

Yes sir... I’m on my phone so that “too Two” should have said lost two for each putting her total time with the company 4 years behind Bob.

Females do a lot of amazing things that we don’t. They focus on the family in most cases better than we ever will, they also tend to take a career break to tend to sick and or dying family members before we do. My wife has done both..

This is understood. Yet, the numbers representing the gap are still significant when factoring things like this. It's real. It happens all the time and it is something that will take generation to solve. Ignoring the fact that is truly does exist is part of the problem.

My wife was several years into her career in nursing when we first met. We married and had two fine boys with her taking off six weeks each time. She lost no seniority due to the time off. Now 30 years further into her career, now as a malpractice claims adjuster with an RNC and reaching top production goals in her company she is likely still getting less than a male hired at the same time with even lessor qualifications.

Even if the company gives all employees the identical percentage raise it increases the pay differential of the two individuals. That's basic mathematics. This is another problem that needs to be addressed.

What is strange to me is the fact that married men would actually benefit from collaborating with women to close the pay gap. And, yet, here in this forum, far from that kind of mutually beneficial collaboration, most of the men here deny the existence of a pay gap.

What is strange to me is the fact that married men would actually benefit from collaborating with women to close the pay gap. And, yet, here in this forum, far from that kind of mutually beneficial collaboration, most of the men here deny the existence of a pay gap.

Yes sir... I’m on my phone so that “too Two” should have said lost two for each putting her total time with the company 4 years behind Bob.

Females do a lot of amazing things that we don’t. They focus on the family in most cases better than we ever will, they also tend to take a career break to tend to sick and or dying family members before we do. My wife has done both..

I got you, but that's not the similar circumstances Guido is talking about. He's saying when both people really have 20 years in the company, same start date, didn't take extended time for maternity leave, and etc., there's still a gap. From what I've read, the gap shrinks when accounting for all these factors, but there's still a gap nonetheless. I feel like men should be given paid-maternity leave as well, but that's a different discussion for a different day.