Giants trading Eli Apple to saints

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-23-2018, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Too much is being made of his off field stuff
Nobody knows how he was treated by the players,coaching staff etc in New York. Not one of them has had boo to say when OBJ talks crap or acts the diva, yet they spole on Apple, a easy target. Maybe he does have some growing up to do,maybe he was used as a scapegoat for a awful team. Thing is if he was a locker room issue waiting to blow you would think that one of the 3 former college teammates would have been spoke to. The guys 23,been in the league a couple of years of course he has some maturing to do. He will be in a winning team,out of New York and with former teammates, it could well be the stage he needs to progress. And if its not then they have lost a 4th rounder for a half season rental and they'll cut him in the offseason or next year. He was a high first round pick for a reason.

There's another part of this aspect I haven't seen yet: Apple's connection to Lattimore as Ohio State Football Alums. They played together 4 years ago. Reports seem to indicate that they are still boys. Hopefully the camaraderie and competition will elevate both of their play moving forward.

SFIAH

lee909 · 10-23-2018, 04:42 PM

The bits I have read said he was great in camp and one of their best and most improved players this year. I guess we see in the coming weeks.

lee909 · 10-23-2018, 04:43 PM

I'm thinking we trade the 2 before the draft so the front office can get a extended break after a superb owl run.

|Mitch| · 10-23-2018, 04:47 PM

From Mike Clay who does a very good weekly WR/CB matchup column:

“Not sure I understand this one for the Giants. Apple seemed to be playing much better. Recent 1st rounder, only 23, every-down player. Seems like he'd be a good future asset.

As for the Saints, yet another win-now move. Apple will slide in opposite Marshon Lattimore and is an upgrade over Ken Crawley.“

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lee909 · 10-23-2018, 04:49 PM

I get its win now
But you don't get a 23 year old with 2 years on his deal and a 5th year option as only win now. If this plays out its a genius piece of work as you are very unlikely to get anything of his quality in the 4th

cmike · 10-23-2018, 04:53 PM

Apple’s here now. What # does he wear. 24’s taken.
Watched last nights game highlights, only heard his name once. a good thing.

frydaddy · 10-23-2018, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

which ones?

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Rhodes is banged up. That alone is pretty big. Although after Mike Thomas dog walked him in the playoffs I don't exactly fear the guy.

|Mitch| · 10-23-2018, 05:00 PM

Saints acquire CB Eli Apple from Giants for 2019 4th-round pick, 2020 7th-round pick
Now this is what the going rate for an underachieving first-round pick should be. When it was announced that Eli Apple was traded, I quickly wondered what the compensation would be. I came up with a fourth-round selection, and that's exactly what it was.

Eli Apple was the 10th-overall selection in the 2015 NFL Draft, and he looked awful Monday night trying to defend Atlanta's receivers. However, he has loads of talent, and he's only 23. He still has time to find himself, and it's possible he could be a late bloomer. The Saints have terrific coaches who should get the most out of him. Trading a first-round choice for Apple would've been a disaster, but a fourth-rounder is totally worth it.

The Giants, meanwhile, made out well in this trade, too. Apple had been a major disappointment for them, and it sounded like they would consider parting ways with him following the 2018 campaign. Thus, getting a fourth-round selection for him is a great move.

Unlike the Amari Cooper trade, this one is close to even. I'll give the Giants a slight edge, but if the Saints get the most out of Apple, they'll be seen as the winners in this deal.

Grade for Saints - B+
Grade for Giants - A-

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nfltrades....9OKytedoIQo.99

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|Mitch| · 10-23-2018, 05:34 PM

Jay Bromley to IR; makes room for Eli

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|Mitch| · 10-23-2018, 05:37 PM

Deuce Windham
@RevDeuceWindham
1 Game through the 4 games I'll watch of Eli Apple's 2018 season.

So far, more positives than negatives. Also seems to fit what #Saints DC Dennis Allen wants to do in terms of zone coverage. Back to the tape.

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10-23-2018, 04:39 PM	#91
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Originally Posted by lee909 Too much is being made of his off field stuff Nobody knows how he was treated by the players,coaching staff etc in New York. Not one of them has had boo to say when OBJ talks crap or acts the diva, yet they spole on Apple, a easy target. Maybe he does have some growing up to do,maybe he was used as a scapegoat for a awful team. Thing is if he was a locker room issue waiting to blow you would think that one of the 3 former college teammates would have been spoke to. The guys 23,been in the league a couple of years of course he has some maturing to do. He will be in a winning team,out of New York and with former teammates, it could well be the stage he needs to progress. And if its not then they have lost a 4th rounder for a half season rental and they'll cut him in the offseason or next year. He was a high first round pick for a reason. There's another part of this aspect I haven't seen yet: Apple's connection to Lattimore as Ohio State Football Alums. They played together 4 years ago. Reports seem to indicate that they are still boys. Hopefully the camaraderie and competition will elevate both of their play moving forward. SFIAH

10-23-2018, 04:42 PM	#92
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints The bits I have read said he was great in camp and one of their best and most improved players this year. I guess we see in the coming weeks.

10-23-2018, 04:43 PM	#93
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints I'm thinking we trade the 2 before the draft so the front office can get a extended break after a superb owl run. saintfan likes this.

10-23-2018, 04:47 PM	#94
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints From Mike Clay who does a very good weekly WR/CB matchup column: “Not sure I understand this one for the Giants. Apple seemed to be playing much better. Recent 1st rounder, only 23, every-down player. Seems like he'd be a good future asset. As for the Saints, yet another win-now move. Apple will slide in opposite Marshon Lattimore and is an upgrade over Ken Crawley.“ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ChrisXVI likes this.

10-23-2018, 04:49 PM	#95
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints I get its win now But you don't get a 23 year old with 2 years on his deal and a 5th year option as only win now. If this plays out its a genius piece of work as you are very unlikely to get anything of his quality in the 4th Rsanders24, Rell&Gold and MarchingOn like this.

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10-23-2018, 04:53 PM	#96
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,427	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Apple’s here now. What # does he wear. 24’s taken. Watched last nights game highlights, only heard his name once. a good thing.

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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| which ones? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rhodes is banged up. That alone is pretty big. Although after Mike Thomas dog walked him in the playoffs I don't exactly fear the guy. cmike likes this.

10-23-2018, 05:00 PM	#98
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Saints acquire CB Eli Apple from Giants for 2019 4th-round pick, 2020 7th-round pick Now this is what the going rate for an underachieving first-round pick should be. When it was announced that Eli Apple was traded, I quickly wondered what the compensation would be. I came up with a fourth-round selection, and that's exactly what it was. Eli Apple was the 10th-overall selection in the 2015 NFL Draft, and he looked awful Monday night trying to defend Atlanta's receivers. However, he has loads of talent, and he's only 23. He still has time to find himself, and it's possible he could be a late bloomer. The Saints have terrific coaches who should get the most out of him. Trading a first-round choice for Apple would've been a disaster, but a fourth-rounder is totally worth it. The Giants, meanwhile, made out well in this trade, too. Apple had been a major disappointment for them, and it sounded like they would consider parting ways with him following the 2018 campaign. Thus, getting a fourth-round selection for him is a great move. Unlike the Amari Cooper trade, this one is close to even. I'll give the Giants a slight edge, but if the Saints get the most out of Apple, they'll be seen as the winners in this deal. Grade for Saints - B+ Grade for Giants - A- Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nfltrades....9OKytedoIQo.99 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-23-2018, 05:34 PM	#99
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Jay Bromley to IR; makes room for Eli Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-23-2018, 05:37 PM	#100
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Giants trading Eli Apple to saints Deuce Windham @RevDeuceWindham 1 Game through the 4 games I'll watch of Eli Apple's 2018 season. So far, more positives than negatives. Also seems to fit what #Saints DC Dennis Allen wants to do in terms of zone coverage. Back to the tape. ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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