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The Dude 10-15-2019 10:24 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 861840)
Soon my friend.
Don’t think it’s happening. Not unless we could find a RB who can block and plays the screens like a mad man. Ingram’s loss is really coming back to bite us.
Kamaras injury changes everything. Wish we could get Brandon Coleman back.

K Major 10-15-2019 10:28 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 861932)
You forgot a DT with cap hits of 25/27/22ml a year in 20/21/22 who they can't cut till 22 and that will still cost them 8ml dead money

Loads of FA in next two years but they do have space. But no picks
2020 Rams cap hits ...

Goff 36M
Gurley 17M
Donald 25M
Cooks 17M

That will hurt big time and not to mention Ramsey will command a new deal.

lee909 10-15-2019 10:45 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 861935)
2020 Rams cap hits ...

Goff 36M
Gurley 17M
Donald 25M
Cooks 17M

That will hurt big time and not to mention Ramsey will command a new deal.

One of the reason we need a Rookie QB when Brees walks

Thomas
Kamara
Ramcyzk
Lattimore
Rankins

And a few possible others

st thomas 10-15-2019 10:47 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 861935)
2020 Rams cap hits ...



Goff 36M

Gurley 17M

Donald 25M

Cooks 17M



That will hurt big time and not to mention Ramsey will command a new deal.


What about kupp his last year rookie deal up?


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AsylumGuido 10-16-2019 07:01 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 861846)
Seriously speaking though ...

Rams just put Talib on IR and now Peters is gone. They will get roasted on those boundaries.

I see one and done once the playoff dust settles.
Heard once they lost Talib they decided to switch to a zone coverage scheme. Besides Peters, the remaining DB's are better suited to the zone. Peters was not. They got a very good young, fast LB in exchange that really filled in well when C.J. Mosely went down for a bit.

K Major 10-17-2019 08:53 AM
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I'll be watching tonight's game (Broncos/Chiefs) with a slight bit of interest.

Hopefully Pat Mahomes lights up the Broncos into reality and their "mind set" about the post season.

Emmanuel Sanders is a guy I hope we trade for before the deadline.

We are thin at wide out & now Cook is injured.

rezburna 10-17-2019 09:19 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 861958)
Heard once they lost Talib they decided to switch to a zone coverage scheme. Besides Peters, the remaining DB's are better suited to the zone. Peters was not. They got a very good young, fast LB in exchange that really filled in well when C.J. Mosely went down for a bit.
I think it’s the opposite big brotha. Peters is better suited for zone coverage where he can sit back, read, and take chances. They want to play more man coverage now and send the heat. Jalen Ramsey is the perfect man corner. He can do both, but he shines in man coverage.

rezburna 10-17-2019 09:34 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
Kenyan Drake on the trade block.

st thomas 10-17-2019 09:39 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 862132)
Kenyan Drake on the trade block.


Does Miami have anyone that wants to play for them. He sees the writing on the wall. Putting his name out early.


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K Major 10-17-2019 09:49 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
Just in case anyone has missed it ...

All I want for Christmas is another chain moving WR to help Mike and AK. Last year we were in a similar boat with no other "threats". Too many missed 3rd down opportunities when it was money time.

FinSaint 10-18-2019 03:23 PM
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Christmas is cancelled.

jeanpierre 10-18-2019 08:03 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
...just gonna leave this right here for my Brother(s)...

jeanpierre 10-20-2019 07:37 PM
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K Major 10-20-2019 07:40 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 862886)
I hope to the Saints ...

We need another WR.

ChrisXVI 10-20-2019 07:41 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
4th round pick... Get it done.

jeanpierre 10-20-2019 07:45 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 862889)
4th round pick... Get it done.
Fourth rounder? Too much for a last year contract as his three year, 33 mil 2016 contract expires this year...

I'd rather trade for a younger DeDe Westbrook, cost less draft capital, salary cap slot...

K Major 10-20-2019 07:59 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 862892)
Fourth rounder? Too much for a last year contract as his three year, 33 mil 2016 contract expires this year...

I'd rather trade for a younger DeDe Westbrook, cost less draft capital, salary cap slot...
Give up a 4th, 5th whatever ... win a super bowl and worry about the picks/draft capital later. If someone told me that giving up a 3rd/4th rounder would win another SB, I'd do that every day of the week.

lee909 10-21-2019 01:19 AM
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I would rather give up a 3rd/4th rounder for Chris Harris if Apple is out longer than next week.

How the comp pick work, would you get it by trading for them and losing them this late in there deal, cant remember the ins and outs of how the NFL makeit up every year to give the Pats at least 367 extra picks

K Major 10-22-2019 06:56 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
Patriots trade for WR Mohamed Sanu from Falcons - NFL.com

jeanpierre 10-22-2019 08:24 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 862958)
I would rather give up a 3rd/4th rounder for Chris Harris if Apple is out longer than next week.

How the comp pick work, would you get it by trading for them and losing them this late in there deal, cant remember the ins and outs of how the NFL makeit up every year to give the Pats at least 367 extra picks

Chris Harris hasn't been traded because the Broncos want a helluva lot more than a 3rd or 4th for the No. 5 CB in the league...

jeanpierre 10-22-2019 08:25 AM
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jeanpierre 10-22-2019 08:27 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 863220)
Imagine being the Patriots, they have a No. 2 in Edelman, but can't give the No. 1 job away...

lee909 10-22-2019 10:23 AM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 863251)
Chris Harris hasn't been traded because the Broncos want a helluva lot more than a 3rd or 4th for the No. 5 CB in the league...
They get nothing after december bar a 3rd comp pick a year later

ChrisXVI 10-22-2019 10:26 AM
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K Major 10-22-2019 10:56 AM
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^^^ Me thinks that Sanu (2nd rounder) trade will drive up the price for others, namely Sanders & AJ Green. Sanu is a nice addition to any team but a 2nd? Falcons may have won this one.

If we could just get Sanders for a 4th ... it's a wrap.

K Major 10-22-2019 11:22 AM
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The wheels have seem to come off with the Chargers ...

I wonder if Keenan Allen is on the trade block?

ChrisXVI 10-22-2019 01:38 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 863291)
^^^ Me thinks that Sanu (2nd rounder) trade will drive up the price for others, namely Sanders & AJ Green. Sanu is a nice addition to any team but a 2nd? Falcons may have won this one.

If we could just get Sanders for a 4th ... it's a wrap.
The Failclowns had the advantage of Sanu being under contract next year too (and for a decent salary at $6.5 mil.) I think that was a big selling point. Fingers crossed other GM’s won’t expect that kind of compensation.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2019 01:57 PM
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Damn it!

For that compensation though, no thanks.

K Major 10-22-2019 02:07 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863330)
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...16765084094469

Damn it!

For that compensation though, no thanks.
** Welp **

You are right, that is a lot to give up.

It's the Pats fault by giving a damn 2nd for Sanu.

Still sucks though.

K Major 10-22-2019 02:09 PM
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Not much left out there in the FA market for WR's ...

Parker, AJ Green ?

I wonder what Plan B is on Metarie Dr. Gotta believe Sanders was our guy.

dizzle88 10-22-2019 02:16 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
We just cant seem to get any WR help for Thomas.

K Major 10-22-2019 02:22 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 863337)
We just cant seem to get any WR help for Thomas.
AJ? Parker? Dez?

Any interest there Diz?

I hope I'm wrong but trotting out inexperienced rookies (Jordan H), a vet who can't seem to catch a cold (Carr) and a unhealthy Tre & Kirkwood (IR) etc is asking for trouble come playoffs.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2019 02:25 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 863335)
Not much left out there in the FA market for WR's ...

Parker, AJ Green ?

I wonder what Plan B is on Metarie Dr. Gotta believe Sanders was our guy.
I don’t know at this point. There’s Parker like you mentioned... but I feel like he’s been on the trade block for years and nobody cares. I’ve heard Jets WR Robby Anderson is on the block. There’s probably a bunch of guys available that just don’t have much value.

I’ve heard a few rumblings about Giants TE Evan Engram being available. That’s an intriguing one.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2019 02:30 PM
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Another interesting name Katherine Terrell floated out there... Titans WR Corey Davis.

frydaddy 10-22-2019 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863343)
Another interesting name Katherine Terrell floated out there... Titans WR Corey Davis.
I'd give up a second for him in a heartbeat.

K Major 10-22-2019 02:37 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863343)
Another interesting name Katherine Terrell floated out there... Titans WR Corey Davis.
Is he an upgrade over what we have on the roster not named Michael Thomas ?

frydaddy 10-22-2019 02:41 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 863345)
Is he an upgrade over what we have on the roster not named Michael Thomas ?
He's actually pretty damn good. He gets no attention because he plays for the Titans. He'd do well here. And he's way younger than the other options out there.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2019 02:47 PM
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I don’t really know how good Corey Davis is. I’m not sure why the Titans would trade him either. They have a nice, young WR group of Davis, AJ Brown and Adam Humphries.

I think we should just go all-in on AJ Green.

frydaddy 10-22-2019 02:59 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863347)
I don’t really know how good Corey Davis is. I’m not sure why the Titans would trade him either. They have a nice, young WR group of Davis, AJ Brown and Adam Humphries.

I think we should just go all-in on AJ Green.
I want AJ too, but its gonna cost a second, or multiple picks in later rounds. He's still not healthy, and has had a lot if durability issues in recent years. I just don't know if he's worth the price right now.

lee909 10-22-2019 03:00 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 863291)
^^^ Me thinks that Sanu (2nd rounder) trade will drive up the price for others, namely Sanders & AJ Green. Sanu is a nice addition to any team but a 2nd? Falcons may have won this one.

If we could just get Sanders for a 4th ... it's a wrap.
But we all know what happens

Pats give up a 2020 2nd rounder(28-32 pick)

Sanu plays two years and becomes a FA in 2021

2022 Pats get a 3/4th round comp pick for losing him in FA.

Midseason 2022 Pats pick up Sanu on waivers after he's cut by team X after overpaying him


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