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K Major 05-09-2019 07:28 AM
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Maybe the front office didn't have enough "trust" in Ziggy's shoulder or his ability to stay on the field .. specifically in late November.

Saints still need another DE though.

ChrisXVI 05-09-2019 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 844386)
Maybe the front office didn't have enough "trust" in Ziggy's shoulder or his ability to stay on the field .. specifically in late November.

Saints still need another DE though.

Makes sense now. He wouldn’t be much help right off the bat.

jeanpierre 05-09-2019 08:40 AM
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K Major 05-09-2019 09:59 AM
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Defenses are going to have issues covering Cook in 2019. Thomas should have less double teams, especially when SP lines up Kamara in the slot.

RedZone, up the seams etc. Jared's ability to separate is key for me with that initial burst off the line.

The Cook FA signing is exactly what Drew & the run game needs ... someone to keep linebackers honest.

jeanpierre 05-09-2019 02:41 PM
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jeanpierre 05-10-2019 09:29 AM
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jeanpierre 05-10-2019 10:16 AM
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K Major 05-10-2019 10:43 AM
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SUH or Wilkerson on a 1 year rental anyone?

Saints need another DE that is for sure. After Cam Jordan and Davenport, it gets kind of sketchy.

jeanpierre 05-10-2019 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 844451)
SUH or Wilkerson on a 1 year rental anyone?

Saints need another DE that is for sure. After Cam Jordan and Davenport, it gets kind of sketchy.
No Love for T-Rex?!?

Wilkerson offers the versatility of being able to play DE for you as well - I'd prefer the versatility...

And Suh didn't get going till the playoffs and both times he was matched up vs injured players (v. Peat in the Rams v. Saints)...

McCoy should be a fine Center, but I'd prefer we'd not been in that position and had secured Unger's heir last year...

We could have scooped up Boston College DE Zach Allen at the end of Round 2, but Payton likes paying retail...

Also, we brought in some serious upside guys among the UDFA group as well that should make camp compelling to follow...

jeanpierre 05-10-2019 11:28 AM
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K Major 05-10-2019 12:20 PM
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No Love for T-Rex?!?
TRex is a decent backup "piece", but we need something more coming of the edge.

The guy was a healthy game day scratch (inactive) for damn near the entire 2018 season :rolleyes:. That is kind of concerning.

Hopefully Granderson or Gustin can shock the world in camp.

K Major 05-10-2019 12:35 PM
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Jared Cook for me.

He'll make life a bit easier for Brees & other WR's not named Michael Thomas.

jeanpierre 05-10-2019 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 844458)
TRex is a decent backup "piece", but we need something more coming of the edge.

The guy was a healthy game day scratch (inactive) for damn near the entire 2018 season :rolleyes:. That is kind of concerning.

Hopefully Granderson or Gustin can shock the world in camp.
Just remember Sean Payton is less than forthright in disclosing healthy scratches...

ANd Rob Ninkovich was often a healthy scratch - then he was released under an injury waiver; took a year to get healthy in Miami...

He then went to New England where he became a SuperBowl Defensive End...

You're probably right about T-Rex, but he'll have plenty of competition for the 4th defensive end roster spot...

Don't see Gustin playing Defensive End at his size (comparable to Hau'oli Kikaha); know they signed him as that, but suspect he'll get more of a look as an SAM LB...

Kaufusi is a Jason Taylor-Marcus Davenport-wiry-type weak side defensive end that has terrific athleticism, but just may be lacking some sand and some strength...

jeanpierre 05-13-2019 07:08 AM
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Well, for those that wanted more veteran depth for the run - that's off the table...

K Major 05-13-2019 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 844474)

You're probably right about T-Rex, but he'll have plenty of competition for the 4th defensive end roster spot...
For me, Trey is just a quality backup. Big fall off from Okafor to him when "setting the edge". Better as a pass rusher vs run defender.

I think most of the Saints coaches believe that Davenport will become a 85-90% snap player in 2019.

Keep an eye on Porter Gustin at camp :bng:.

jeanpierre 05-13-2019 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 844551)
For me, Trey is just a quality backup. Big fall off from Okafor to him when "setting the edge". Better as a pass rusher vs run defender.

I think most of the Saints coaches believe that Davenport will become a 85-90% snap player in 2019.

Keep an eye on Porter Gustin at camp :bng:.
Believe Gustin is A.J. Klein's eventual replacement...

jeanpierre 05-15-2019 07:05 AM
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Other than another veteran offensive lineman, can't think of any position we're in need...

Sure there are positions that can be upgraded, but you're not gonna have All-Pros at every position; I like our roster balance and that we have among the best at the key skill positions...

K Major 05-15-2019 07:12 AM
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I still don't see Alex Okafor's replacement on the roster ... yet.

jeanpierre 05-15-2019 07:30 AM
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I still don't see Alex Okafor's replacement on the roster ... yet.
Other than drafting Zach Allen, which we needed a Center more, I like what we have to work with going into Training Camp - But, you're absolutely right that's a void that someone better step up into for us or the defense will regress...

And, Davenport may not be worth two first round picks, but he'd better be a force for us opposite Cam, especially with Rankins possibly out for the year. Big "O" has a helluva opportunity to seize that position and I for one hope he does...

K Major 05-15-2019 07:40 AM
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And, Davenport may not be worth two first round picks, but he'd better be a force for us opposite Cam, especially with Rankins possibly out for the year. Big "O" has a helluva opportunity to seize that position and I for one hope he does...[/B]
I'm still concerned about what the league intends (suspension) to do as it relates to the marijuana "issue".

AsylumGuido 05-15-2019 07:47 AM
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I'm still concerned about what the league intends (suspension) to do as it relates to the marijuana "issue".
Not sure they're going to do anything. It was a misdemeanor citation for certain items on the premises. They don't even hand down suspensions for first time actual failed tests and to the best of my knowledge I am unaware of any "failed test".

K Major 05-15-2019 07:48 AM
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Not sure they're going to do anything. It was a misdemeanor citation for certain items on the premises. They don't even hand down suspensions for first time actual failed tests and to the best of my knowledge I am unaware of any "failed test".
Good to know.

AsylumGuido 05-15-2019 08:14 AM
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Good to know.
There are two types of drug testing in the NFL - Performance Enhancing Substances (PES) and Substance of Abuse (SOA). They have different rules. Failing a test for PES can result in an immediate suspension. Failing a test for SOA will advance the player to the next level of the program. There are three stages. An initial failure places the player in stage one which mandates more testing. A failure in stage two can result in a four game suspension - if the substance is NOT marijuana. If the substance is marijuana it simply increases the number of tests possible and lengthens the time in the program. Another marijuana failure can result in a four game suspension and stage three in which a failed test can result in a one year ban.

K Major 05-15-2019 09:09 AM
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At least we have a healthy Malcolm Brown & Mario Edwards to start the season.

K Major 05-15-2019 09:12 AM
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Big "O" has a helluva opportunity to seize that position and I for one hope he does...[/B]
I guess Sean Payton, Jeff Ireland and the "Mickster" did the right thing in trading up in the 4th round to select David O huh ;).

IMO the Saints office/scouting dept has done a hell of a job over the last 3, 4 years in finding talent on both sides of the ball :broccoli:.

Hot take .. I'm calling it now. Erik McKoy and Gardner-Johnson will become studs in New Orleans.

jeanpierre 05-15-2019 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 844742)
I guess Sean Payton, Jeff Ireland and the "Mickster" did the right thing in trading up in the 4th round to select David O huh ;).

IMO the Saints office/scouting dept has done a hell of a job over the last 3, 4 years in finding talent on both sides of the ball :broccoli:.

Hot take .. I'm calling it now. Erik McKoy and Gardner-Johnson will become studs in New Orleans.
Alrighty, here we go - we wouldn't have had to trade up for the Big O (Outstanding Pick, Good Job By Ireland's Scouting Team), had we not used two picks to move up and take Vonn Bell...

New England used the third round pick to select Guard Joe Thuney, who made the All Rookie Team...

And the fourth we traded was eight picks ahead of where we took Onyemata...

See that's four picks for two players - and Payton and his yes-man the Mickster overpaid for each of them...

Worth mentioning - was told Ireland encouraged we get that fourth back that was part of the deal to move up and take a ridiculously fallen Chauncey Gardner - Mickster is at best a capologist, not a negotiator...

;)

K Major 05-15-2019 10:32 AM
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https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6Zt...Ne8/source.gif

Ah ... but all will be forgotten when we hoist the Lombardi in 2020.

Who Dat !

K Major 05-16-2019 11:59 AM
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Patrick Peterson Suspended Six Games For Violating PED Policy

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ets-6-game-ban

jeanpierre 05-16-2019 11:20 PM
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Patrick Peterson Suspended Six Games For Violating PED Policy

Cardinals CB Peterson gets 6-game PED ban
And he's p/o'd at 'Zona for not restructuring his contract to minimize the hit to his pocketbook...

jeanpierre 05-17-2019 06:34 AM
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Shares are not an endorsement, sometimes they can be used to highlight a strength, appreciate the roster assembled...

jeanpierre 05-17-2019 06:35 AM
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Shares are not an endorsement, sometimes they can be used to highlight a strength, appreciate the roster assembled...


jeanpierre 05-17-2019 06:48 AM
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jeanpierre 05-17-2019 08:46 AM
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Well, we're definitely all-in on Davenport and Player To Be Named (Granderson?) - With two firsts, and a fifth, we should be...

ChrisXVI 05-20-2019 06:12 PM
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GO GO GO!!! This is not a drill!

ChrisXVI 05-20-2019 06:40 PM
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Ahem... forgetting someone? Maybe a team who’s starting 3-technique has a torn Achilles?

The Dude 05-20-2019 09:12 PM
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...16772762185729

Ahem... forgetting someone? Maybe a team who’s starting 3-technique has a torn Achilles?
LMAO @ the Browns.
Are they seriously counting them among the contenders? Camp hasn’t even started yet. OBJ will tear that locker room apart if that young coach of theirs doesn’t have a set of balls.

st thomas 05-20-2019 11:23 PM
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Wtf are we waiting for

Crusader 05-21-2019 04:04 AM
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LMAO @ the Browns.
Are they seriously counting them among the contenders? Camp hasn’t even started yet. OBJ will tear that locker room apart if that young coach of theirs doesn’t have a set of balls.
I actually believe Landry would slap the living daylights out of OBJ if he came in and started ****.

jeanpierre 05-21-2019 02:01 PM
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ChrisXVI 05-21-2019 03:30 PM
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I know nothing about this player.


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