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I just watched them roll the Pansies. I hate the Panthers but they're not a bad team. 9ers made them look like a terrible team.

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The 72ers really aren't that good, offensively. I don't know what happened to the Panthers. It's like they prepped for the wrong team and were surprised that the 57ers wanted to run the ball.

I'm not too worried about them. Their defense is real. But the Saints can score 20-24 points on them, and that should get it done.

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But are the Panthers really a good team? They beat up on cupcakes for the past 4 weeks. Arizona, Houston, Jacksonville and Tampa Bay - none of them are contenders.

I just remembered though; they're not called the Patriots so I guess their win streak against bad teams don't count. When the Pats beat the living hell out of crap teams, it's talked about non-stop as the only reason they're any good. People will beat that drum constantly blaming the AFC East on why they're good, even though New England is usually dominant and destroys those teams. Carolina didn't even look that good in most of those wins. They got 5 INTs on Winston and still let Tampa back into that game.

The only "decent" team they beat is Houston who are overrated every year. Even if the Texans do make the playoffs, they're a one and done team.

The Niners offense is definitely suspect. I second this, cause I'm not sold on Jimmy G who is just a mediocre game manager. Shanahan is also the genius who blew the 28-3 lead in the SB.

Even their defense was gashed today by McCaffrey.

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"Scary" ? ... naw.

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Good thing that match will be in the Superdome. It will likely decide the #1 seed.

I firmly believe that one of the two between SF and GB will be one and done in the playoffs. The Packers do not scare me as much as the Niners do.

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I ain't skeered...

Efff the whiners

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I don't think the Panthers are all that good, no. Just ok.

I don't know why you brought up the Patriots in an unrelated topic. The Patriots have all of those Super wins and appearances, so they are, as much as I hate to say it, the gold standard. But their regular seasons ARE far less stressful than anyone else's, because they play in an absolutely historically bad division. That has nothing to do with anything, though.

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So did the Colts during Manning's prime.

And so do Green Bay and Kansas City - the teams with the most first round playoff exits at home in the last decade. Something that New England don't have despite it being hammered on and on how bad the AFC East is. They don't struggle in the playoffs like GB and KC have after wrapping up an easy division title against cupcakes.

I brought this up about the Pats, cause it does get thrown around any time they are discussed... but any other team beating up on crap opponents, some how gets a free pass for it.

Carolina beat 4 weak teams in their win streak and they didn't look all that impressive against them. I worry about them cause they are a divisional opponent for us.

To be fair here, I think the 49ers also have an easy schedule this year, but they're blowing those teams out in contrast to Seattle who has struggled in 5 of their 6 wins now against trash teams.

It's a good team's job to completely stomp the trash teams into the ground. The Patriots, Saints and 49ers are doing it. When a team barely scrapes by against a trash team like Seattle is doing and like Carolina has done, it raises questions of how good they truly are.

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They have the Cards TWICE, Seahawks, Packers and Ravens all before playing the Saints. Mostly playoff caliber teams.

A bit pre mature for #1 seed talk.

Oh and the Saints can beat the Niners at their place too.

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They don't scare me, they haven't been tested yet most of their wins are by bad teams and they beat up a rookie today. I know in the past the book has been we need homefield advantage to go to the big dance, this year I don't think it applies. I'm not scared to go to SF let's win our division and go from there.

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I remember a story about what Sean said before either a Giants or Dallas before a prime time beatdown:

Fan: “we’ll be praying for yall!”

Sean: “You should be praying for them.”

And we went on to blow them out on national tv that night

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If we want to talk about the luck of playing in bad divisions the Saints are super lucky

Panthers - meh

Tampa- The media best team on paper and surprise package each year

And the Falcons suck more than the AFC East,NFC East combined, and i love it

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Thank you and I love it too.

I've done data on the divisions over the years and the talk about the AFC East being "historically bad" is complete bull****. However, it IS true about the AFC South during the 2000s, and it's also true that no other team is really benefiting from crappy divisions more so than the Packers, Chiefs and Colts. They're the teams that barely go 10-6 or 11-5 and end up relying on those 5 or 6 division wins while struggling with their non-divisional opponents. Green Bay made the playoffs at 8-7-1 in 2014, thanks to 5 wins against their division. But I guess cause they have TEH RODGERZZZZ as Pats fans jokingly call them, they're never criticized for beating on their crap division and then laying an egg in the playoffs.

For the AFC South during the 2000s; for most of those years, the Colts had an expansion team to use as a punching bag (Houston), a crappy team that never did anything (Jacksonville), and a team coached by Jeff Fisher that would never go anywhere (Tennessee). It took Houston until 2015 or 2016 to finally win a game on the road in Indy. The Colts were still a force though during the Manning era. They more so benefited from a bad division between 2012 to 2015. The 2012 team had no business even being in the playoffs with what was the worst point differential of an 11-5 team in NFL history. Of that record, they were 5-1 vs their division, which is why they made the playoffs. They got destroyed by Baltimore in the first round.

The AFC South is truly the worst division in the NFL since the division realignment. It became a "wide open" division when the Colts declined but all it took was Indy to get their **** together and yet they still dominate that division. Even when Houston gets the division title, they still blow it in the playoffs and are no real threat to the Colts.

A team that goes 5-1 or 6-0 in their division and still at least is 12-4 or 13-3 and wins a playoff team, don't really benefit from a bad division.

However, teams that do go 10-6 or 11-5 thanks to a 5-1 or 6-0 record vs their division and then 5-5 the rest of the way through? Yep, those are the teams that do benefit from bad divisions (Green Bay in 2015 and 2016, K.C. in 3 of their last 4 playoff years). These are also the teams that put up embarrassing losses in the playoffs AT HOME.

I know we have a weak NFC South this year and I'm loving our dominance but I don't think we or the Patriots really benefit from it as much as people like to make that claim.

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As opposing fans, it's fun to make fun of the teams in our division. I get it. But as it pertains to reality, and this specific subject, the Panthers and Falcons have both had a lot of playoff appearances in the Payton/Brees era, and have both appeared in Super Bowls. I fail to see how the Saints have been lucky. That just really isn't true.

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Dude, I don't get what your problem is, and why you want to beat some pointless topic into the ground, even if you have to invent things to make your point.

Jacksonville and Tennessee might not have won super bowls, but they had several playoff appearances each, during Peyton's prime years there. It was by no means a "great" division, and maybe not even good most years. The AFC East, however, HAS been historically bad. The Bills have made one playoff appearance in the last 20 years, the Dolphins have made it only once or twice in the last 15 or so years, and the Jets about the same as the Dolphins. The Jets made it two years in a row way back in Mark Sanchez's first two years, and they were 9-7 in both seasons. And all three of those teams are almost always well below .500, not competitive 7-9 or 8-8 teams.

I don't know why you bring up the Chiefs. They haven't been on a long enough run for anyone to make note of why they have been successful. but, for what it's worth, the Chargers are almost always competitive, and the Broncos went to two Super Bowls not long ago, and are now in a rebuild. The AFC West hasn't been a toilet tank for 20 years. So you're reaching badly on that one.

Green Bay absolutely gets some criticism for at times having a weak division, but the Vikings have had plenty of good years, and the Lions and Bears have sprinkled in some good teams. Again, far better than what the AFC East can say.

But no one is suggesting that the Patriots haven't been better than these other teams. It's just that their regular season success, though impressive, has been inflated by having almost no competition within their division. But they do take care of business, and I made no effort to dispute that, so I'm not sure who you're arguing with and why you directed your issues at me earlier in this thread.

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The 49ers are good and definitely the biggest threat to us in the NFC. That being said, the score today was lopsided because the Panthers made so many mistakes that they can't be counted on both hands.

What I did see is that you can run on them, which is going to be important when we meet.

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Dang Ching good investigating reporting. I was one that always hated the pats for there *****cat division


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Modify the subject line and I’ll buy in,

49ers are scary good when playing against the Panthers.


I remember when Chicago’s defense was scary good.

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Wins over the Buca, Bengals, Steelers, Browns, Skins. Combines record: 7-29
Notable wins: Panthers and Rams. Combines record:9-6.

They dominated the Panthers..it happens. They're decent, but I want to see a better body of work.

The Pat's are undefeated too. Go look who they played. Jets twice, dolphins, Skins, Steelers, Browns, Giants, and Bill's. One team with a winning record.

The combined record of our opponents is like 32-28-1. 4 teams with winning record, one 500, 3 with losing records.

Just my two cents

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We are thinking alike, make that four cents...

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Been over 25 years since Joseph Clifford Montana Jr., nicknamed "Joe Cool",
"the Comeback Kid"... left San Fran for good. I still hate the 49ers.

But I will say, as long as he ain't the QB, I'm not afraid.

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I saw a dog yesterday which reminded me that the AFC East being "historically bad" is complete bull**** ad nauseaum.

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Yeah I know
But if there is a opening to stick the boot to Caroline or Atlanta you better believe I'm putting on the biggest boots I've got and going to town

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Dancing the curb stomp boogie. :dance:

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When I look at teams the first thing I look at is, what can this offense do against our defense?

Thats been how I measured the NFL this season in comparison to us.

The 49ers I dont see them doing too much against us, I think the game will be something like 30-14 type game, dont be surprised he drop the game either depending on where we set by that point.

The only team that kind of worries me in the NFC is the Packers, but they have shown to not play much defense either, but they got enough on offense to really move the ball on us. The other is the Seahawks on a 2nd go, but a less concern than the Packers.

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Read the first two sentences of your post again. Just three years ago did you ever dream you would be making that post without getting laughed our of B&G?

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The 49ers want to run the ball. The Saints specialize in stuffing the run. They don’t have a true #1 wide receiver. They’re quarterback is overrated and prone to turning the ball over. Their defense is pretty great but we can offset that. I’m not worried. They aren’t used to winning in the first place.

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this + our O-line is silencing the best pass rushers, you won't hear Bosa's name all game.

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3 years ago it would be what our offense can do and if our defense can do enough to stop them.

I feel last 2 years our defense has carried the offense, not a bad thing when you got what we got on offense either.

When you really think back 3 yrs ago or more, you know the offense failing to score and sputtering at any point in the game would be a disaster.

ARZ game if this was 3 yrs ago or more, ARZ would be up 21-10 by half and probably would of never got better, same with JAX and Tampa game. our defense has done so good to getting the ball back for the offense to have more opportunities to score, what a good football team does, its just now keeping teams honest and we dont get another team like Houston coming in.

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Our defense isn’t necessarily carrying the offense, though it has in some games. The issue is we now run a punishing ball control offense to go with our punishing D. By the end of Q3 the opposition is spent and our offense explodes. It’s by design.

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I was thinking this watching the game last Sunday as Murray was pounding the ball. Just keep doing it. That :censored: will pay off neighborhood of the 4th quarter. I love to see us taking it to people on the ground.

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I have to agree as of now 53


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Figured Id break down the 49ers being scary good idea:

Defensively they are good.


49ers Scoring on opponents: Offensively they are average at best. Other than Washington and Carolina they put up points near what those teams average having scored on them.

TB 31 (Averages 30.3)(2-5)
CIN 17 (Averages 26.2)(0-8)
PIT 24 (Averages 20.7)(3-4)
CLE 31 (Averages 25.9)(2-5)
LA 20 (Averages 21.8)(5-3)
WAS 9 (Averages 24.4)(1-7)
CAR 51 (Averages 26.3)(4-3)

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49ers kind of remind me of the 2019 Bears. Very good defensively however question mark at QB. Jimmy Garoppolo doesn't exactly strike "fear" on secondaries.

The next five games should be telling. AZ won't be a cakewalk tomorrow either. I could see Patrick Peterson baiting Jimmy into forcing a mistake.

At some point this season, he'll have to win a game with his arm & I'm not convinced he's that dude.

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Undefeated. Three deep at RB with speed. Great TE. Super great DL that attacks. Good kicker. Good CB's. Game managing QB with skills. Below average WR's. Easy schedule so far. Look to possibly be a year away. Jury is way out.

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The 49ers offense will be their undoing.

They are built very similar to the early 2000s Patriots teams that won 3 SBs. Even on defense they are built like that team.

Brady was a game manager at best before he got elevated to the level of OMG TOM BRADY GOAT RINGZ RINGZ RINGZ, which was largely thanks to Wes Welker, Randy Moss and later the other lethal play makers they had on offense. Jimmy G looks just like Brady from back then, but even more mediocre.

Kyle Shanahan is still the guy who blew a 28-3 lead in the SB and didn't learn anything from it. You saw Sunday how he was still passing up 27-3, leading to a safety and Carolina scoring a TD after that. Had that been a competent team and not the Panthers, they would've got back into that game.

I was never sold on Jimmy G and still ain't.

And yes they play an easy schedule, so does Green Bay. The Packers should have 2 losses, if not for the refs doing everything they possibly could to bail golden boy Rodgers out at home.

GB and SF both are going through cupcakes. The only difference is that SF is flattening their opponents while GB is barely squeaking by most of them.

I still expect the Niners to finish 12-4 and win the NFC West.

I'm not sold on Seattle being some big opponent for them. The Seahawks have struggled to beat crappy teams, the same ones that the Niners are dominating. Seattle has been destroyed by the only 2 decent teams they've played all year; us and Baltimore, both at home. We led by 20 on them and pretty much blew them out, as did the Ravens.

Our match with them will most likely decide the #1 seed.

I am absolutely not sold on Green Bay at all and they worry me cause if there is one team that benefits from calls and ref bias in the post season, it's the team with that douchebag golden boy Rodgers. Seriously, go back to 2016 and count all the calls that went their way in that playoff run. FFS they called back a Rodgers INT on their final drive vs Dallas to keep them alive and pull that game out. Refs couldn't help them vs Atlanta cause they finally faced a decent team. The NFL would do anything for a Patriots/Packers SB, even if it meant GB gets their skulls crushed (as they would). I'm kinda hoping Minnesota is for real and steals that division from them, and then we can get a Vikings/Saints rematch at the dome and erase the Minnesota Miracle by redeeming ourselves.

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I don't buy AZ testing them. Kingsburry is way in over his head as a coach and Murray will probably have a meltdown game against that defense.

They win games like the Bears though, and even the Pats this year - inept QB play don't matter when your defense generates a bunch of turnovers and completely shuts down opposing offenses. The Broncos won a SB with that style of play.

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USA Today Computer NFL Rankings...

Patriots have the 32 easiest schedule and have the 49ers have the 31 easiest schedule. Saints are rated #4 in the power pole with the 12th hardest schedule.

Interesting information as long as you don't actually look at the games.

Saints and 49ers have switched 80s rolls. We have the West Coast Offense and they have the Great Defense.

They won't win in New Orleans without turnovers.

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Kingsbury is such an idiot of a coach.

Missed the game cause my wife and I had trick or treaters. Watched the highlights this morning.

The Cards stop the Niners at 4th and goal before the half, but Kingsbury called a timeout. Niners get another chance and get it this time. That one screw up came back to haunt them as they made a comeback.

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Kingsbury is a bad head coach but good OC...

As far as coaches holding their team back this year, I have to say that Kingbury and Kitchens take the cake. They both have talented teams but seem to make awful decisions that cost the team.