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11-15-2019, 02:39 PM | #141 |
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Quinn told Payton he was tanking at the engagement party. Payton was drunk Quinn weren’t there
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11-15-2019, 09:43 PM | #142 |
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Re: Brees is done
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
First off, your entire position is flawed in that you presume to know what play was called before an audible was made. None of us know what those plays would have been.
But considering the Saints inability to pass protect, there should have been an emphasis on running the ball, regardless of whatever Drew thought he saw. You just can't continue to be so predictable when you are already not pass protecting well. And your attempt at showing down and distance dictating the lack of runs was just wrong. Again, they ran ELEVEN freaking times, Guido. We all know they got behind the chains with sacks. That's why you run on first down. That's why you call plays to maybe roll Drew out of the pocket and set up some screens. There are lots of innovative things a coach can do to, again, at least TRY to offset the pressure. Those things were NOT attempted. Certainly not to a degree that registers as being relevant, at the very least. You pointed out instances were there was a run for a minimal or no gain, as if to say "aha! so much for your run the ball theory!". I'll repeat... 11 runs. Kamara had 4 carries for 24 yards. Why did he only have 4 carries? You confoundingly stated that the run was a part of the game until the 4th quarter. It wasn't 26-9 in the first half. 11 carries, Guido. Why did they keep going back to what WASN'T working? They abandoned the run... Period. It doesn't matter if you are willing to accept that. The facts speaks for themselves, very loudly. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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11-15-2019, 09:56 PM | #143 |
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
All of his statements when he knows he is wrong are the equivalent of a 5 year old saying “I know you are but what am I” when another kid says something they don’t have a comeback for. Those posts of his are a perfect example.
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11-16-2019, 05:57 AM | #144 |
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The Narcissism is real here lol
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11-16-2019, 08:07 AM | #145 |
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
They did run on first down. FIVE TIMES in the first seven possessions for gains of 1, 0, 4, 2 and finally 6 in the 4th quarter. They ran as often as not on those first seven possessions before going down 20-9. The run would have been able to remain more a part of the game if Ginn and Cook hadn't dropped four balls between them in those first seven possessions and if Armstead hadn't false started. 26 of the pass plays came either in the last 1:31 of the first half when the run really wasn't an option or in the 4th quarter after going down by two scores.
What wasn't working was the run. And then the opportunity was past. People would have been *****ing about them running the ball on 2nd and 8 for two yard gains. |
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11-16-2019, 08:55 AM | #146 |
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Oh, and it is most commonly a pass or run combination that is sent into the QB. If the play is "killed" and the result is a pass it is usually a run that had been "killed". That is common knowledge. I've heard that mentioned on multiple occasions on Moving the Chains, as well, when callers ask what is happening when the QB "kills" a play.
If a straight out pass is called there are usually variations that can be run based upon defensive alignment that do not require "killing" of the play. |
11-16-2019, 10:44 AM | #147 |
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The full play by play log can be found here.
Tell me which plays they should have used a running play and why. Don't forget, running on every single first down is asking for failure especially when it hasn't worked very successfully to that point and the defense is expecting it. Mixing in passes should open up the running game ... IF the receiver doesn't keep dropping the ball. When that happens you are basically forced to throw it again. |
11-16-2019, 12:24 PM | #149 |
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The saints are 0-42 when running the ball less than 15 times in a game... Enough said..
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11-16-2019, 12:59 PM | #150 |
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I can't wait until we kill the Bucs. That way we have something else to talk about other than that awful performance last weekend.
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