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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I believe you are wrong. Let's see this week what his snap count is and if he is indeed in on the same packages as Rankins. Carolina should be more committed to the run than was ...

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Old 11-21-2019, 10:56 AM   #1
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I believe you are wrong. Let's see this week what his snap count is and if he is indeed in on the same packages as Rankins. Carolina should be more committed to the run than was Tampa (8 rushing attempts).

His snap counts on special teams have also been up the past two games.

What do you believe is the reason his count went down that one game?
Poor play. Not enough juice getting to the qb. Plus he has actually seen a steady decline in snaps vs the start of the season, albeit this has been his lowest count to date.
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

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Poor play. Not enough juice getting to the qb. Plus he has actually seen a steady decline in snaps vs the start of the season, albeit this has been his lowest count to date.
Glass half empty.
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

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Glass half empty.
When I look at facts I dont view them from either a half empty or half full viewpoint. I view the facts as is.

Glass half empty response is simply a distractor and honestly it is irrelevant. But you have to say that because it is all you have. When you dont have facts to support your position this is what you inevitably resort to.

You asked a question, I responded with facts. I'm sorry if you dont like them. At the end of the day every single fan wants him to be a pro bowler.

Have a nice day, thanks for the discussion.

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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

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When I look at facts I dont view them from either a half empty or half full viewpoint. I view the facts as is.

Glass half empty response is simply a distractor and honestly it is irrelevant. But you have to say that because it is all you have. When you dont have facts to support your position this is what you inevitably resort to.

You asked a question, I responded with facts. I'm sorry if you dont like them. At the end of the day every single fan wants him to be a pro bowler.

Have a nice day, thanks for the discussion.
Rereading your reply looking for those supposed "facts" to which you refer as the "reason" for the reduced snaps for Davenport in the Bucs game. The ONLY fact for the reason is the statement from Payton saying that the lack of the running game by the Bucs reduced the need for the defensive package that included Davenport. All you supplied were personal speculations that in no way can be taken as fact in the eyes of team management. I haven't heard anything coming from the front office supporting your personal opinions on the reduced snaps for that game. Sounds pretty pessimistic to me.

So, in your personal opinion you feel that Davenport is showing 1.) poor play, and 2.) not enough juice getting to the QB.

Can you point out some tangible examples of Davenport's poor play that would cause the Saints coaching staff to reduce his snap counts in the Tampa game?

And explain not enough juice getting to the QB. If Davenport is indeed involved in the defensive package (as explained by K_Major earlier) he would be responsible for protecting against the run first and then pressuring the QB. This differs from the package in which Hendrickson has been identified by Payton as being a part. Hendrickson job is a straight out rush on the QB with no run responsibility.

We have a deep group of defensive linemen that can be rotated based upon scheme that utilizes the individual strengths of the individual players. That is a good thing.
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Old 11-21-2019, 02:21 PM   #5
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Rereading your reply looking for those supposed "facts" to which you refer as the "reason" for the reduced snaps for Davenport in the Bucs game. The ONLY fact for the reason is the statement from Payton saying that the lack of the running game by the Bucs reduced the need for the defensive package that included Davenport. All you supplied were personal speculations that in no way can be taken as fact in the eyes of team management. I haven't heard anything coming from the front office supporting your personal opinions on the reduced snaps for that game. Sounds pretty pessimistic to me.

So, in your personal opinion you feel that Davenport is showing 1.) poor play, and 2.) not enough juice getting to the QB.

Can you point out some tangible examples of Davenport's poor play that would cause the Saints coaching staff to reduce his snap counts in the Tampa game?

And explain not enough juice getting to the QB. If Davenport is indeed involved in the defensive package (as explained by K_Major earlier) he would be responsible for protecting against the run first and then pressuring the QB. This differs from the package in which Hendrickson has been identified by Payton as being a part. Hendrickson job is a straight out rush on the QB with no run responsibility.

We have a deep group of defensive linemen that can be rotated based upon scheme that utilizes the individual strengths of the individual players. That is a good thing.
Thank you for the discussion, have a great day
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