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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by JayFoster This is real simple: Child Molester/People Helping Child Molester Cover Up Crimes: Jay, can you help us? Me: No. Anything other than that is absolutely stupid and disgusting. Think about if this was your kid they ...

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Old 01-24-2020, 01:09 PM   #1
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Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis

Originally Posted by JayFoster View Post
This is real simple:

Child Molester/People Helping Child Molester Cover Up Crimes: Jay, can you help us?

Me: No.

Anything other than that is absolutely stupid and disgusting. Think about if this was your kid they were helping this sick priest and the Church with pr with. How would you feel?
Hard to argue that... I’d like to know the depth of the involvement though. There was apparently an awful lot of correspondence on the topic for just telling them to do the right thing.
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Old 01-24-2020, 01:23 PM   #2
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Hard to argue that... I’d like to know the depth of the involvement though. There was apparently an awful lot of correspondence on the topic for just telling them to do the right thing.
Unfortunately, we may never know.

And you're right, the depth would be interesting and I hope it's not worse than this stupid, bone-headed move already.

I just don't get the concept or what went through Bensel's mind when he said, "Hmmmmm. . .I think it's a good idea to help them with pr about child molestation."

Jesus.
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Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis

Originally Posted by JayFoster View Post
This is real simple:

Child Molester/People Helping Child Molester Cover Up Crimes: Jay, can you help us?

Me: No.

Anything other than that is absolutely stupid and disgusting. Think about if this was your kid they were helping this sick priest and the Church with pr with. How would you feel?
Jay, welcome to B&G.
It gets lively in here, but far less nasty, than where you come from.
Some really cool folks here; and the Houston bunch meets in real life.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:21 PM   #4
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Again, the source is the Associated Press.
As a former news director, I grew up ripping and reading these guys
teletypes, until I began to notice a pattern of strong bias.
Understand this. THEY-are- FULL- of SH*t.

I don't even think they do any background on their writers anymore.

Think my Enquirer reference was funny?
Does anyone remember The Legend of Boggy Creek? A Sasquatch story
set in Fouke, AR?

Its original source: The Associated Press.

Put your pitchforks down and breathe, kids.
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Old 01-24-2020, 01:28 PM   #5
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Statement from the New Orleans Saints

While there is current litigation relative to the New Orleans Archdiocese and clergy sex abuse, our comments are limited only to the scope of our involvement. The New Orleans Saints organization has always had a very strong relationship with the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese reached out to a number of community and civic minded leaders seeking counsel on handling the pending media attention that would come with the release of the clergy names in November of 2018. Greg Bensel, Senior Vice President of Communications for the New Orleans Saints, was contacted and offered input on how to work with the media. The advice was simple and never wavering. Be direct, open and fully transparent, while making sure that all law enforcement agencies were alerted. The New Orleans Saints, Greg Bensel and Mrs. Gayle Benson were and remain offended, disappointed and repulsed by the actions of certain past clergy. We remain steadfast in support of the victims who have suffered and pray for their continued healing.

Further, the Saints have no interest in concealing information from the press or public. At the current discovery stage in the case of Doe v. Archdiocese, the Saints, through their counsel, have merely requested the court to apply the normal rules of civil discovery to the documents that the Saints produced and delivered to Mr. Doe's counsel. Until the documents are admitted into evidence at a public trial or hearing in the context of relevant testimony by persons having knowledge of the documents and the events to which they pertain, the use of the documents should be limited to the parties to the case and their attorneys. If admitted into evidence of the case, the documents and the testimony pertaining to them will become part of the public record of the trial of the case.
That's the slippery MoFo that worries me in all this...

Jay's post is right on, if they offered their advice in being transparent - no problem.

Anything else, then that/those idiot(s) have not only exposed the team, but would have committed a reprehensible behavior...
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If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period.
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If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period.

Dissolving the Saints makes no sense. If the ownership and upper management were involved in something legitimately insidious, then yes perhaps NFL/NBA could force sales of the Saints and Pelicans, but I doubt there's a case to actually disband either franchise.
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If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period.
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Dissolving the Saints makes no sense. If the ownership and upper management were involved in something legitimately insidious, then yes perhaps NFL/NBA could force sales of the Saints and Pelicans, but I doubt there's a case to actually disband either franchise.
Where are y'all getting the crazy notion that the Saints management in any way condoned what any child molester did? They have had a long standing relationship with the local archdiocese that asked their advice on public relations, along with several other "civic leaders". The people asking for the advice are not the ones accused of any wrong-doing. The Saints said they suggested be open and transparent. From my understanding the church has been completely cooperative with the investigations. Y'all are buying into the ridiculous hype of the Associated Press trying to create a story.

Try educating yourself before jumping to all kinds of false conclusions. This is what I HATE about the so-called media today.
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:48 PM   #10
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Where are y'all getting the crazy notion that the Saints management in any way condoned what any child molester did? They have had a long standing relationship with the local archdiocese that asked their advice on public relations, along with several other "civic leaders". The people asking for the advice are not the ones accused of any wrong-doing. The Saints said they suggested be open and transparent. From my understanding the church has been completely cooperative with the investigations. Y'all are buying into the ridiculous hype of the Associated Press trying to create a story.

Try educating yourself before jumping to all kinds of false conclusions. This is what I HATE about the so-called media today.

I should have highlighted IF, because I highly doubt the ownership is going to be implicated that severely. As I said in an earlier post, this smells like a shakedown. But I was just stating, in a remote total worst case scenario, the worst outcome would be a forced sale of the team akin to Jerry Richardson and the Panthers. There would be no reason to heavily penalize or get rid of the Saints or Pels, in the less than 0.1% chance it came to that.
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